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  • #16
    Yes. The orange fringe.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
      So you think John Boehner represents the fringe of the Republican party?
      He has certainly demonstrated that he has no control of it. Hopefully, the republicans will choose someone else next year.
      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
      "Capitalism ho!"

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Tupac Shakur View Post
        Yes. If he can work with Massachusetts Democrats, he can certainly work with the Democrats in Congress.
        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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        • #19
          As a foreigner my two worries about Romney is that he could invade Iran and it would have an effect on the prize of oil worlwide, and terrible if the iranians manage to block the Hormuz Strait, and also that his tax cuts will worsen the USA budget deficit.

          I think the USA has to both raise taxes and cut spending, and neither Obama nor Romney propose that.
          I need a foot massage

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          • #20
            If Romney wins then I'm moving to Costa Rica
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Barnabas View Post
              As a foreigner my two worries about Romney is that he could invade Iran and it would have an effect on the prize of oil worlwide, and terrible if the iranians manage to block the Hormuz Strait, and also that his tax cuts will worsen the USA budget deficit.

              I think the USA has to both raise taxes and cut spending, and neither Obama nor Romney propose that.
              He's not going to cut taxes, he's going to flatten taxes. And he's going to cut medicare/medicaid/social security and repeal Obamacare.

              Plus, perhaps threat of military force can actually get Iran to back down. That's why they gave our hostages back to Reagan literally the minute he took office.
              If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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              • #22
                Let Republicans explain why we have no idea what would happen if Romney won:

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                  He's not going to cut taxes, he's going to flatten taxes. And he's going to cut medicare/medicaid/social security and repeal Obamacare.

                  Plus, perhaps threat of military force can actually get Iran to back down. That's why they gave our hostages back to Reagan literally the minute he took office.
                  He's attacking Obama for supposedly cutting medicare. Attack Obama doing for what he wants to do? I'm not surprised. He won't repeal Obamacare because he probably won't have the Senate. I don't know how he'll "flatten" taxes without cutting them if he insists he won't raise taxes on middle class... oh that's right, he's lying. What military force is he going to threaten when he doesn't control Congress? I guess he'll just disregard the Constitution and go to war with Iran anyway.

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                  • #24
                    Obama's cuts to medicare are a $700 billion raid. Ryan's plan involves changing how the entire program is administered to make it more efficient. Cutting Obamacare without the senate is trivial. Most of it can be wiped away with executive orders--Obama anticipated ruling without congress, so he put a lot of the regulatory power in the executive branch. Most of the rest can be done by the fact that the 30 or so states the GOP controls are not going to implement it. The remainder can be stopped by the House refusing to put money for it in the budget. RIP Obamacare.

                    Obama went to war with Libya without Congress, by the way.
                    If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                      Obama's cuts to medicare are a $700 billion raid. Ryan's plan involves changing how the entire program is administered to make it more efficient. Cutting Obamacare without the senate is trivial. Most of it can be wiped away with executive orders--Obama anticipated ruling without congress, so he put a lot of the regulatory power in the executive branch. Most of the rest can be done by the fact that the 30 or so states the GOP controls are not going to implement it. The remainder can be stopped by the House refusing to put money for it in the budget. RIP Obamacare.

                      Obama went to war with Libya without Congress, by the way.
                      Obama cuts spending he considers inefficient- it's a "raid"! Romney cuts spending you consider inefficient by giving everyone a voucher- not a "raid". Got it.

                      How exactly are executive orders going to get rid of the insurance mandate or really any of the parts of the bill that are actually unpopular?

                      Obama didn't commit American troops in a full scale invasion and occupation of a country. Doing so without congressional approval would be a radical expansion of executive power on a scale never seen before. Iran's leaders are obviously willing to risk having their nuclear facilities bombed so you really aren't getting anywhere with half-measures that have probably already been threatened anyway.

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                      • #26
                        re Obamacare: The easiest way to kill it would be to do nothing. Assuming the GOP fails to take the Senate, a Romney admin could simply stop the writing of the remaining rules to implement the law, stop Medicare from moving ahead with programs to find new ways to pay providers, stop the IRS from enforcing the individual mandate and even stop Medicaid officials from facilitating the expansion of the program in the states that want it.
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • #27
                          It's not the individual mandate I dislike, it's the tax on employees who don't have health insurance, the requirement that parents' plans support kids until age 26, and ESPECIALLY the non-exclusion of pre-existing conditions.

                          However, if the individual mandate doesn't get enforced (and even if it does), and the pre-existing conditions regulation stands, I may very well wind up just going without health insurance. It's the most financially sensible decision.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                            Obama's cuts to medicare are a $700 billion raid. Ryan's plan involves changing how the entire program is administered to make it more efficient. Cutting Obamacare without the senate is trivial. Most of it can be wiped away with executive orders--Obama anticipated ruling without congress, so he put a lot of the regulatory power in the executive branch. Most of the rest can be done by the fact that the 30 or so states the GOP controls are not going to implement it. The remainder can be stopped by the House refusing to put money for it in the budget. RIP Obamacare.

                            Obama went to war with Libya without Congress, by the way.
                            Actually, cutting Obama will be more costly than keeping it. Ryan's plan won't pass and, even if it did, he promises the same cuts to medicare as Obamacare, except Ryan's plan asks the elderly to pay for those cuts. Finally, Romney agrees with so much of Obamacare that there's little left for him to cut.
                            “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                            "Capitalism ho!"

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                              It's not the individual mandate I dislike, it's the tax on employees who don't have health insurance, the requirement that parents' plans support kids until age 26, and ESPECIALLY the non-exclusion of pre-existing conditions.

                              However, if the individual mandate doesn't get enforced (and even if it does), and the pre-existing conditions regulation stands, I may very well wind up just going without health insurance. It's the most financially sensible decision.
                              These are the very things Romney said he wants to keep.
                              “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                              "Capitalism ho!"

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                              • #30
                                Romney and all of the Republicans have said they'd eliminate the entire law and I'm hoping that they do so, because the most popular parts of the law are the worst parts.

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