Thread for people to explain how immigrants take jobs

[Dinner]

How did that short film of your's do any way? Weren't you entering it into some sort of contest?

[Jon Miller]

While I think we need to put more into education in the US, I think that KH is right about what people in america value:

"In 2007–08, the average annual base salary of regular full-time public school teachers ($49,600) was higher than the average annual base salary of regular full-time private school teachers ($36,300)."

http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=55

Even accounting that many of the private school teachers are not accredited or are like Ben or are doing it for religiously motivated reasons, the pay is still so low compared to public school teachers.

Of course, the public school teachers average goes way up due to including special ed teachers and administrators, and without these the public school teachers salary might be much lower. This is an issue of where we spend the money and now how much is spent though.

JM

[KrazyHorse]

Being a Police Officer is something that I always wanted to do...When I first retired from the military, I interviewed for a lot of jobs that I found boring. The jobs that I took, I also found to be boring. I have always believed in service to my community and I wanted to do something that would be interesting, exciting and give something back to my community. My worry was that I was too old. But one day, I just said **** it, I'm going to go out and try. I did great on the written tests and when I took the physical tests I often surpassed people younger than myself. The last issue and possible deal breaker was the pay. The police pay combined with my retirement pay allow me to live in a standard that is close to what I enjoyed as a Naval Officer so I am not complaining about the pay and I enjoy my job.

1) You did complain about your pay
2) You're already about 300 years of economic thought behind where the discussion is at, so I'm going to stop toying with you now

[Jon Miller]

I must also add that at this very moment I am considering going back to school for either film or law school.

My understanding is that for law school only about 1/3 actually make money off it, so unless you are pretty sure you will be part of that 1/3 I don't think it is a good idea.

JM

[Kidlicious]

Pax provides much more utility than you do. A lot of people do.

[Aeson]

You should probably sit down and breathe a little; I didn't claim that I was a utility maximizer, merely that I was unwilling to to actively destroy utility.

The earnings you have have more utility in some uses than others. By using them for things of low utility you are just as much destroying utility as those actions you are damning others for.

[Pax]

How did that short film of your's do any way? Weren't you entering it into some sort of contest?

The short film is done. I submitted to three local festivals in Aug/Sep time frame. It did'nt get in. I'm looking at the Atlanta Film festival now or online distribution as a web serial. Everyone who has seen the short has liked it so I know there's something there. Thanks for asking.

[Dinner]

Yeah, here in California there are a whole lot of lawyers who graduated from 3rd rate schools, still passed the bar, but are only making less than $30,000 per year. That's why we have all the ambulance chasers. Law degrees are like MBA in that if you go to a top school then they're of immense value but if you go to an also ran school they not worth a whole lot monetarily. Still, if it's something that interests you or if you can get into a top school then go for it.

[KrazyHorse]

While I think we need to put more into education in the US, I think that KH is right about what people in america value:

"In 2007–08, the average annual base salary of regular full-time public school teachers ($49,600) was higher than the average annual base salary of regular full-time private school teachers ($36,300)."

http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=55

Even accounting that many of the private school teachers are not accredited or are like Ben or are doing it for religiously motivated reasons, the pay is still so low compared to public school teachers.

Of course, the public school teachers average goes way up for the special ed teachers and administrators, and without these the public school teachers salary might be much lower.

JM

Public school teachers also generally work in a worse environment and must be compensated for that. Then again, private schools are free to select better teachers (both initially and subsequently through firing) and the job security in a public school is an unmeasured compensation. I'm unwilling to ascribe the entire difference between public and private educators to public-sector unionization, but the effect is there.

[Pax]

1) You did complain about your pay
2) You're already about 300 years of economic thought behind where the discussion is at, so I'm going to stop toying with you now

Thank you. Then refer back to my previous statement. Don't comment or respond to my posts...Dickhead.

[KrazyHorse]

Pax provides much more utility than you do. A lot of people do.

Your judgment is meaningless on that, as is mine, except for the fact that I base my statements on the combined wisdom of the entire human race as revealed through market prices.

[Pax]

I'm interested in Law but more interested in Film. What I want ultimately is the financial freedom to make my films with my own money. If I go to film school, I will have more knowledge of how to make a good film and more contacts. But if I can get into a good law school then I'm hoping on seeing extra cash. I still have GI bill money left and I don't think I should let it go to waste..but how to best use it.
I thought that lawyers have a low unemployment rate.

[Pax]

Your judgment is meaningless on that, as is mine, except for the fact that I base my statements on the combined wisdom of the entire human race as revealed through market prices.

Someone has a god complex.

[Kidlicious]

While I think we need to put more into education in the US, I think that KH is right about what people in america value:

"In 2007–08, the average annual base salary of regular full-time public school teachers ($49,600) was higher than the average annual base salary of regular full-time private school teachers ($36,300)."

http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=55

Even accounting that many of the private school teachers are not accredited or are like Ben or are doing it for religiously motivated reasons, the pay is still so low compared to public school teachers.

Of course, the public school teachers average goes way up due to including special ed teachers and administrators, and without these the public school teachers salary might be much lower. This is an issue of where we spend the money and now how much is spent though.

JM

That's because of two reasons.

1) Private schools are much easier to teach at.

2) Public school teachers often are unionized.

[Kidlicious]

Your judgment is meaningless on that, as is mine, except for the fact that I base my statements on the combined wisdom of the entire human race as revealed through market prices.

Strange definition for wisdom.