Thread for people to explain how immigrants take jobs

[Hauldren Collider]

Specifically, prove why these people are incorrect. Cite studies, use logic, I don't care. I just want to give you all the benefit of the doubt.

Oh, and while you're at it, explain why (if applicable) you prefer wealth transfers, whether by tax money or charity money, to people in first world countries instead of third-world countries. I will accept Felch-style arguments for this one, just demonstrate that you're intellectually honest enough to admit your favoritism. (If I am mischaracterizing you, Felch, I apologize.)

This thread sponsored by posts made by kentonio, Pax and Oerdin.

[Aeson]

For one, opening our borders would destroy a lot of jobs in the human smuggling business.

I only prefer wealth transfers if it's in the form of goods purchased at Wal-Mart for artificially low prices due to immigration restrictions.

[Kidlicious]

Jose comes across the border. Jose gets job and you don't. Any questions?

[Hauldren Collider]

It's that kind of simplistic, incorrect thinking that I was hoping I wouldn't see.

[Kidlicious]

Then you shouldn't ask stupid questions.

[Hauldren Collider]

You're right. Maybe I should have just assumed people who want to stop immigration are stupid or racist or both. But I'm trying to give you a chance to prove you aren't. My mistake.

[Aeson]

You should have left the

[Kidlicious]

You're the one saying immigrants don't take our jobs. How about you explain how what I said in the first post is wrong, or are you just going to call people stupid racists?

[Felch]

I will accept Felch-style arguments for this one, just demonstrate that you're intellectually honest enough to admit your favoritism. (If I am mischaracterizing you, Felch, I apologize.)

I have my own brand of arguments? Awesome

Here's my question. If immigrants reduce the number of available jobs, then why doesn't Detroit have full employment?

[Hauldren Collider]

You're right! Places with lots of emigration, like Europe--they ought to have full employment.

[giblets]

Jose comes across the border. Jose gets job and you don't. Any questions?

Jose gets paid, Jose spends money on stuff, businesses hire more people. Any questions?

[Kidlicious]

Jose gets paid, Jose spends money on stuff, businesses hire more people. Any questions?

So how is it different when the natural born person gets the job?

[Hauldren Collider]

Ah, see? Racism. I knew it.

If Kidicious weren't racist, it wouldn't matter to him whether a Mexican or an American got the job, only that the most qualified person got the job.

[DaShi]

HC, is it really fair for you to request this, when you often post things that are unsubstantiated and nearly always wrong?

[giblets]

So how is it different when the natural born person gets the job?

If there aren't more people to hire then the businesses have to offer higher pay to attract workers away from other businesses. So, uhh, keeping immigrants out will allow white-skinned people without high school degrees to earn better wages while brown-skinned people live in squalor in the home country.