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  • Is Ben insulting God in this thread? Because I think he's insulting God.
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    • As I'm sure BK could tell you, Hell wasn't a Christian concept until Cyprian borrowed it from the Greeks in the 2nd century. Most of the Christian stories about Hell are apocryphal and should be regarded as 'fan fiction' by real Christians.
      Except the fact that it wasn't. Great job putting your words in my mouth, btw.
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      • Originally posted by a.kitman View Post
        what sins? and i mostly thank my grandparens/parents for my blessings.
        The only sins I know about are not thanking God for your blessings and not asking God for forgiveness. Not to be judgemental but the likelihood that you are a Mother Teressa is slim. It's more likely that you are just lying.
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        • Originally posted by DaShi View Post
          Is Ben insulting God in this thread? Because I think he's insulting God.
          His every word is an insult to an intelligent creator.
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          • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
            The only sins I know about are not thanking God for your blessings and not asking God for forgiveness. Not to be judgemental but the likelihood that you are a Mother Teressa is slim. It's more likely that you are just lying.
            lying about what? i never said i was perfect.

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            • Originally posted by a.kitman View Post
              lying about what? i never said i was perfect.
              That's what I took "what sins" to mean, that you are perfect.

              The standard for being a christian is very high. I don't know why someone would even try to meet that standard unless they were a christian. You say you basically behave the same as your grandparents. Why? They didn't just do it for no reason.
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              • Can't be bothered to read the entire thread to see if this is already posted. I know it's an oldie, but probably appropriate here

                The following is an actual question given on a University of Washington chemistry mid term.

                The answer by one student was so ‘profound’ that the professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well :

                Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)?

                Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle’s Law (gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant.

                One student, however, wrote the following:

                First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let’s look at the different religions that exist in the world today.

                Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle’s Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.

                This gives two possibilities:

                1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.

                2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell,then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.

                So which is it?

                If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, ‘It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,’ and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinct……leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting ‘Oh my God.’

                THIS STUDENT RECEIVED AN A+.
                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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                • a well deserved A+
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                  • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                    The only sins I know about are not thanking God for your blessings and not asking God for forgiveness. Not to be judgemental but the likelihood that you are a Mother Teressa is slim. It's more likely that you are just lying.
                    What if I lead a good life,
                    but because I was raised in another religion ask not God/Jesus for forgiveness of my sins,
                    but Shiva, Manitu, Odin or Allah (as I believe in one of them, such as a christian believes in God/Jesus)?
                    Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
                    Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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                    • Now there was a certain rich man, and he was clothed in purple and fine linen, living in luxury every day. A certain beggar, named Lazarus, was laid at his gate, full of sores, and desiring to be fed with the crumbs that fell from the rich man's table. Yes, even the dogs came and licked his sores. It happened that the beggar died, and that he was carried away by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died, and was buried. In Hades, he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and saw Abraham far off, and Lazarus at his bosom. He cried and said, "Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue! For I am in anguish in this flame."

                      But Abraham said, "Son, remember that you, in your lifetime, received your good things, and Lazarus, in the same way, bad things. But now here he is comforted and you are in anguish. Besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, that those who want to pass from here to you are not able, and that none may cross over from there to us."

                      He said, "I ask you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house; for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, so they won't also come into this place of torment."

                      But Abraham said to him, "They have Moses and the prophets. Let them listen to them."

                      He said, "No, father Abraham, but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent."

                      He said to him, "If they don't listen to Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded if one rises from the dead."

                      — Luke 16:19–31
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                      • Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post
                        What if I lead a good life,
                        but because I was raised in another religion ask not God/Jesus for forgiveness of my sins,
                        but Shiva, Manitu, Odin or Allah (as I believe in one of them, such as a christian believes in God/Jesus)?
                        I really believe that Christianity is significantly different from those other religions, but if they believe the same it is possible that they could go to heaven. I don't know the answer to that except that Christ says you have to believe in Him so that's what Christians should tell people.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                        • Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post
                          What if I lead a good life,
                          but because I was raised in another religion ask not God/Jesus for forgiveness of my sins,
                          but Shiva, Manitu, Odin or Allah (as I believe in one of them, such as a christian believes in God/Jesus)?
                          I really believe that Christianity is significantly different from those other religions, but if they believe the same it is possible that they could go to heaven. I don't know the answer to that except that Christ says you have to believe in Him so that's what Christians should tell people.
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                          • Barnabas,
                            That really clears it up, doesn't it?
                            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                            • Not really, if the angel Gabriel appeared in front of me I would be inclined to listen to whatever it had to say.

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                              • Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                                Not really, if the angel Gabriel appeared in front of me I would be inclined to listen to whatever it had to say.
                                shouldn't that be in the BK thread ?
                                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                                Steven Weinberg

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