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  • #46
    All too predictable. Try linking to a post about sin that isn't in a "Ben Hates Gays" thread. You can consider this moving the goalposts if you like, but I asked for a post where you discuss the "total depravity of mankind," not the "total depravity of homosexuals."
    Which is why I start that post with the statement, "everybody sins". Saying that sodomy is wrong isn't the same as saying that only those who commit sodomy are wrong. Why? Total depravity.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
      Which is why I start that post with the statement, "everybody sins". Saying that sodomy is wrong isn't the same as saying that only those who commit sodomy are wrong. Why? Total depravity.
      "Everybody sins, I just happen to be fixated on one particular sin."

      If I said that all political parties are corrupt but that one particular political party is a hundred times more corrupt than the others, then I would not be talking about the total corruption of all political parties.
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      • #48
        I even make the argument in that thread that there's no difference between sodomy and fornication, lying, etc.

        Don't you get tired of this Loin?
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        • #49
          How many threads on homosexuality haven't you posted in?

          You pay lip service to the sins that you're not fixated upon, but it's obvious where your real interests lie.
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          • #50
            How many threads on homosexuality haven't you posted in?
            How many threads on fornication haven't I posted in? Odd that we don't have a continuous 'fornication' issues thread on the go at Apolyton...

            Apolyton has a fixation on homosexuality, not me.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
              Apolyton has a fixation on homosexuality, not me.
              Where/how do you keep coming up with new material to post on homosexuality?
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              • #52
                Where/how do you keep coming up with new material to post on homosexuality?
                I was unaware that posting 2000 year old material constituted 'new'.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                  I was unaware that posting 2000 year old material constituted 'new'.
                  So, after posting your favorite Bible quotes the first dozen or so times, what do you hope to gain by posting them another dozen or so times?
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                    • #55
                      So, after posting your favorite Bible quotes the first dozen or so times, what do you hope to gain by posting them another dozen or so times?
                      My favourite bible quote is actually that poem in Genesis. It's the one I used in my testimony.

                      What do I hope to gain? Eternal salvation, dear boy.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                        What do I hope to gain? Eternal salvation, dear boy.
                        Explain how posting the exact same stuff about other peoples' sins several dozen (several hundred?) times is going to benefit your soul more than, say, reflecting on your own sins. The turnaround at this site is not very high, everybody has heard your spiel about sex by now. And as far as I know you're still a virgin and the Bible hasn't changed recently, so you have nothing new to offer on the subject.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                          The comparison is legit, because everyone is saying it.

                          Hating religious people = good.
                          Hating gay people = bad.

                          You just defended the position yourself by saying it's ok to hate religious people because that's a choice that they make and not, presumably, "a fibre of their being". I should think that most religionistas would disagree.

                          Hating gay people is wrong. Hating the sin that they commit? Ok.
                          Hating religious people is wrong. Hating the sin that they commit? Ok.

                          That's what I expect a fellow Christian to say.
                          Hating people in general is wrong.
                          My point is that you can't compare someones sexual orientation with someones religious opinion.
                          The first is a fact, the 2nd is a choice.
                          that many religious people would disagree with that doesn't change the fact. I'm a 'religious' (no, I'm a christian, but ok...) person myself and I think it's ok to attack me for what I believe. I'd hate it though if people would hate me b/c I'm a white dutch guy.
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                          • #58
                            Robert, I don't think it's right that people would hate you for being a protestant anymore than for attacking you because you are white, dutch or a guy.
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                            • #59
                              That's actually exactly why I hate you.
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                              • #60
                                You don't like the dutch?
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