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  • #46
    now why wouldnt you have a basic religion class? even as an athist i think its a very important subject. how do you even teach history whitout going into religion?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by MRT144 View Post
      Nerd.
      Oh come on, I bet you love that book.
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      • #48
        By the way, Ben, you've become something of a running gag with my friends on my dorm floor. We have a Ben Post of the Day.
        Really? Interesting. Anyways, yes, religious freedom is a Christian idea. Go read Milton sometime.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
          He's got a point, you can't really properly study the style of the Koran unless you know Arabic, and virtually no one knows Arabic.
          I'm not sure, because high school students often have to read stuff that was originally in greek like the Odyssey. Maybe reading a translation isn't ideal but I don't see why it would be futile.

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          • #50
            now why wouldnt you have a basic religion class? even as an athist i think its a very important subject. how do you even teach history whitout going into religion?
            Beats me. I did when I was in High school, plus I had a basics in Philosophy class. I agree that having a class on comparitive religion would be helpful, as an elective.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
              He's got a point, you can't really properly study the style of the Koran unless you know Arabic, and virtually no one knows Arabic.
              Then I say you can't understand properly study the Bible unless you know ancient Greek or at least Aramaic.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                I'm not sure, because high school students often have to read stuff that was originally in greek like the Odyssey. Maybe reading a translation isn't ideal but I don't see why it would be futile.
                Well, the Odyssey is also one of the earliest examples of a particular form of epic story, which I think sets it apart fundamentally from religious texts.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                  I'm not sure, because high school students often have to read stuff that was originally in greek like the Odyssey. Maybe reading a translation isn't ideal but I don't see why it would be futile.
                  They don't read it for style though. They read it for narrative and story elements.

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                  • #54
                    I'm not sure, because high school students often have to read stuff that was originally in greek like the Odyssey. Maybe reading a translation isn't ideal but I don't see why it would be futile.
                    In america they read the Odyssey? I had to read Oedipus Rex, but that was only because my curriculum wasn't the standard. There really isn't much classical education at the high school level at least where I was in Canada. And the Greeks have had far more influence on America.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by DaShi View Post
                      Then I say you can't understand properly study the Bible unless you know ancient Greek or at least Aramaic.
                      I think the argument is that the translation itself is a relevant piece of English literature.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                        For more than two centuries children in England and America learned to read by way of the KJV.

                        QED.
                        Many of them were forced to read it. Again because it was a religious text. Not because it was good literature. Qur'an is divine poetry.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                          I think the argument is that the translation itself is a relevant piece of English literature.
                          King James in particular, the NIV/RASV/etc are not considered relevant at all.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                            I think the argument is that the translation itself is a relevant piece of English literature.
                            But I don't care about its place in English literature. The Qur'an is necessary for Americans to have better understanding of. The bible is not.
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                            • #59
                              I learned to read with Dr. Seuss. In my opinion, far better literature the bible, with much more accessible and relevant life lessons.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by DaShi View Post
                                Then I say you can't understand properly study the Bible unless you know ancient Greek or at least Aramaic.
                                None of the Bible was written in Aramaic. If you are going to troll, do it right!
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