Oslo bombed

[Nikolai]

It's Norway. Even with this nut's rants, Muslims are only 2% of their population.

The immigrant population is way above that percentage though. It's not like everyone with a foreign name is a Muslim.

[Al B. Sure!]

The immigrant population is way above that percentage though. It's not like everyone with a foreign name is a Muslim.

What? 5 of the kids have Muslim last names. They may not be Muslim but their parents, grandparents, etc. or someone in their family is. A sixth had an ethnic Nigerian name. She could have been a Muslim, since Nigeria has a large Muslim population, or anything else.

[Nikolai]

Still it should not be anything weird about it. I don't see why you are so obsessed with the fact some of these kids might have been Muslim, and make it a big deal because there are so few Muslims in Norway.

[Al B. Sure!]

Still it should not be anything weird about it. I don't see why you are so obsessed with the fact some of these kids might have been Muslim, and make it a big deal because there are so few Muslims in Norway.

Who's obsessed? You've posted more posts, and exerted more effort, about these Muslim kids than I have. I just mentioned it because it's interesting that there were more Muslims at the camp than one would expect given Norway's demographics.

And this nut was freaking out and killing people because 2% of Norway is Muslim. Why the hell are numbers like that getting you Europeans all worked up? That's hardly wiping you out.

[dannubis]

Because he is norwegian and this affects him more than some dip**** philly ghetto dweller ?

[Ben Kenobi]

(I'd never heard of this Steyn guy, tbh, but the three minutes research I just did strongly suggests that he's an idiot.)

Uh, and it's Steyn who's the idiot? Again, his points are valid. Especially given the demographics.

They're not actually facts, though. The civil war in Bosnia was not an attempt to exterminate an enemy because of demographics, it was a bloody land-grab between three sides with seperate interests which was actually very nearly averted peacefully in the first place. I really don't want to get deeply into a discussion about the Yugo-wars on this thread, but what passes for analysis from Steyn there is simply rubbish.

Countries that have about a 50/50 percent ratio all tend to get destroyed. Bosnia, Lebanon, Sudan, Cyprus.

[Asher]

Uh, and it's Steyn who's the idiot? Again, his points are valid. Especially given the demographics.

The Norway shooter agrees.

[Ben Kenobi]

His name is Breivik, Asher.

Unsurprising that you are soft on the facts. Demographics are facts, and the facts are stark.

[giblets]

Uh, and it's Steyn who's the idiot? Again, his points are valid. Especially given the demographics.



Countries that have about a 50/50 percent ratio all tend to get destroyed. Bosnia, Lebanon, Sudan, Cyprus.

How the **** are Cyprus and Sudan "about 50/50"?

[Ben Kenobi]

Hrm? are you suggesting that their civil wars have nothing to do with Islam?

[giblets]

I'm suggesting they aren't "about 50%" muslim.

[Al B. Sure!]

Norway is 2% Muslim. The UK is 2-3% Muslim. Germany is 5% Muslim.

They're all a very long way from being majority Muslim countries. I don't know what you Europeans are getting so worked up about. It's just 14 centuries' worth of prejudice on Europe's part coming out.

[Al B. Sure!]

Countries that have about a 50/50 percent ratio all tend to get destroyed. Bosnia, Lebanon, Sudan, Cyprus.

Before the recent split into two Sudans, the CIA world factbook listed Sudan as being 97% Muslim.
Cyprus is 94.8% Greek Orthodox and only 0.6% Muslim.

[germanos]

Norway is 2% Muslim. The UK is 2-3% Muslim. Germany is 5% Muslim.

They're all a very long way from being majority Muslim countries. I don't know what you Europeans are getting so worked up about. It's just 14 centuries' worth of prejudice on Europe's part coming out.

That.

Then there's the fact that we're finally getting rid of religion as a whole (in Holland f.e. more people describe themselves as non-religious then any religious group as such) and people are getting uppety about it creeping back via immigration. IMHO it's paranoia (it's more likely the muslim immigrants and especially their offspring will embrace the blissfull state of self-determination as opposed to submission to Allah) but I'm convinced it's a factor.

Rest assured: Knights Templar will produce the same conversion rate in Europe as Islam has done.

[Al B. Sure!]

Is there any reason to think that those Muslims who immigrate to such liberal European countries would be particularly fervent? I would imagine they would be even more moderate than average for their country of origin for the simple fact that they are immigrating to Europe.