No thread about the new WIKILEAKS United States diplomatic cables leak?

[MOBIUS]

I think it fair to say that the attitude towards the USA in my country (Australia) is actually rather positive.
(Of course that is a generalisation).

The Aussies are just a bunch of wannabe Americans anyway, so no surprises there.

[MOBIUS]

But it may be this way because Europeans want it... if you think a bit deeper about the whole setup you end up with Euros who have enslaved the whole world to work for them, just in a more elaborate way then during imperial times... right now the world works for us while we benefit from lower costs, new tech while our salaries/standard of living is protected.

Chinese produce stuff for very little
India provides service for next to nothing
US invents stuff for us and acts as double crossing douchebags they have on top for the benefit of Europeans... the "special relationship" may be - Americans do the dirty work, keep the army, fund it by the trillion from their taxpayers, go to war while we reap the benefits, even oil contracts afterwards... it is as we have cheaply outsourced 90% of the hard stuff to them, with full guarantee that they will protect us. No wander people like drinax are pissed off. Next thing we will find out from the leaks that from 1bn spent for presidential elections Euros funded 90% of it .

To round it off we have the benefit of it all while largely working 40 hrs a week, have 4-5 weeks holidays, have excellent healthcare, great protection if unemployed, can buy whatever consumer products we want, don't live in cheap but overpriced wooden houses like Americans do and really reap the benefits from the whole system... never thought about it this way, but the only other three countries who have is almost as good as Europeans are Canada, Australia and New Zeland - you guessed it, all members of the commomwealth... I guess it pays to keep the Queen quite well, and yes the owner of Fox news is an Australian

You know, you may actually be on to something there!

[MOBIUS]

Apparently the prime suspect for this latest series of leaks is Welsh!

Maybe we should call it 'Wikileeks'...?

[C0ckney]

i thought that it was the same guy who did the iraq and afghanistan leaks, and the video of US troops shooting civilians in baghdad? bradley manning or something.

[MOBIUS]

Yes. He is Welsh.

[Traianvs]

I could see this ending with a resignation:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...criticism.html

Sounds like prime resignation material to me.

That at least would send a signal to the world. I don't harbour any hope of it though. Nothing happened with the ones responsible for Abu Ghraib for instance. There are innumerable examples similar to this situation in which the powermongerers keep out of reach... I'm sure it's business as usual as well this time.

[BeBMan]

What's the outrage all about? That US diplomats don't always sound nice when talking about foreign affairs/politicians/whatever in internal documents or that some of those docs got leaked to the public?

[Asher]

at the Congressman who wants Wikileak declared a terrorist organization.

What happened to America?

[BeBMan]

Some media article here called this the 9-11 of diplomacy ...Wikileaks gets probably invaded or something

[MOBIUS]

Assange will get invaded with Weapons of Ass Destruction...

[Asher]

From what I hear, he would quite like that.

[dannubis]

Let's send AAZH in then

[MikeH]

If it's this easy to steal this stuff I'm sure all the foreign governments have already seen it all from their own spies anyway.

[Riesstiu IV]

Here's the one on the Dagestani wedding:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...s-06MOSCOW9533

Kind of long but entertaining nonetheless.

[Jon Miller]

If it's this easy to steal this stuff I'm sure all the foreign governments have already seen it all from their own spies anyway.

But they could pretend they didn't know about it before. Having it in the open, and having to deal with it, makes diplomacy a lot more difficult.

JM