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[onodera]

Explain 3rd world countries.

"Dirty heathens, all of them."

[N35t0r]

You say this yet there is not the slightest bit of evidence or proof against the existence of God.

JM

There's also no way to be 100% certain that I'm not a millionaire.

Oh, and there is not the slightest bit of evidence or proof for the existence of God either.

[Jon Miller]

Your reason that it is silly to believe that God exists is that He doesn't exist. So the burden of proof for your statement is on you.

Your reasoning is just plain bad.

And you do have lots of evidence that you aren't a millionaire. You don't have any that God doesn't exist.

JM
(I don't say anything to most atheists, because it is perfectly possible to be an atheist due to reasonable reasons. But your reason fails the initial reasonability test.)

[N35t0r]

No. my reasoning is that I don't believe that god exists, therefore, for me, it is silly to believe that god exists.

I phrased it that way to reflect 'internal monologue', if you will, to ask Kidicious why my previous statement was inconsistent. I'm ultimately arguing his statement that believing what you want to believe is a good thing.

I'm well aware that trying to logically prove what ultimately is a question of faith is ridiculous, and that there are pro-religion counter 'arguments' to every possible anti-religion argument (see Pastafarianism's 'lastthursdayism' for an extreme example that warrants the inverted commas).

[giblets]

And you do have lots of evidence that you aren't a millionaire. You don't have any that God doesn't exist.

If "God" just means an omnipotent, omniscient personal entity then it's unfalsifiable, because it's impossible to make any predictions regarding what such an entity would do. However, if this "God" is also supposed to be benevolent, there's lots of evidence that It doesn't exist. Far more evidence against it than for it, in my opinion. And a benevolent God couldn't be Yahweh. Look at all the stuff that ******* did.

[Kidlicious]

Explain 3rd world countries.

I won't comment as to whether or not people in industrialized nations are happier than those in the 3rd world. I'm only making the point that those with hope are happier than those without it.

[Asher]

Delusions can cause all kinds of happiness.

Some of the happiest people you'll ever meet are genuinely mentally retarded or mentally ill. I'm not even trolling -- this is truth.

If you want to add Christians into that mix also, that's up to you.

[Kidlicious]

I do sometimes get together with my friends and ramble incoherently at each other. We occasionally hit each other with foam bats as well. Entertaining, if ultimately pointless.

That which is infinite is not pointless. That which is finite is closer to being pointless.

[Kidlicious]

Delusions can cause all kinds of happiness.

Some of the happiest people you'll ever meet are genuinely mentally retarded or mentally ill. I'm not even trolling -- this is truth.

If you want to add Christians into that mix also, that's up to you.

Asher, I'm not talking about ignorant bliss. I'm talking about going beyond rational.

[Asher]

You are talking of ignorant bliss quite specifically. It's the ignorance of what happens after you die, the ignorance of the realities of this world that makes many religious people happy.

[Lorizael]

Asher, I'm not talking about ignorant bliss. I'm talking about going beyond rational.

Oh? Mega-rational? Ultra-rational?!

[Kidlicious]

So you're saying that believing in God makes life not suck.

Yes, so long as God favors you. That indeed gives you hope. Hope is more valuable than gold.

But surely it would still be possible to believe in a God if there was no God?

That's hypothetical, however I would disagree.

So lack of a God does not imply suckyness.

It most certainly does if unless you enjoy ceasing to exist.

[Kidlicious]

You are talking of ignorant bliss quite specifically. It's the ignorance of what happens after you die, the ignorance of the realities of this world that makes many religious people happy.

Who is to say that you aren't ignorant and they are?

[Asher]

Who is to say that you aren't ignorant and they are?

Reality, science, reason, rationality, and logic.

[Kidlicious]

Oh? Mega-rational? Ultra-rational?!

Faith