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  • #541
    Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
    You did say that. You are arguing that I am wrong because I rely on faith. That is, in fact, where you are wrong, because being rational does not equal being correct.
    You can be correct without be rational, but only by chance. You have faith in the Christian God; I have faith in the Roswell aliens. If we both have faith, and neither of us is rational, by what measure do we determine which of us is correct?
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    • #542
      Originally posted by gribbler View Post
      What is your methodology for distinguishing a true absurd belief from all of the false absurd beliefs? Do you just make a guess and hope it's right?
      Obviously you pick the one most convenient to you, and then "have faith". It's really simple.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • #543
        Originally posted by gribbler View Post
        What is your methodology for distinguishing a true absurd belief from all of the false absurd beliefs? Do you just make a guess and hope it's right?
        Not a guess. A guess implies weighing the evidence and then making a decision. That is what athiests do. What I do is more like a gut feeling.
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        • #544
          Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
          Not a guess. A guess implies weighing the evidence and then making a decision. That is what athiests do. What I do is more like a gut feeling.
          Christ, you mustn't be serious.

          The path to absolute truth lies in "gut feelings".
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #545
            Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
            You can be correct without be rational, but only by chance. You have faith in the Christian God; I have faith in the Roswell aliens. If we both have faith, and neither of us is rational, by what measure do we determine which of us is correct?
            ???? Again, I'm talking about faith. You don't seem to be. Faith isn't about determining who is right.
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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            • #546
              Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
              Not a guess. A guess implies weighing the evidence and then making a decision. That is what athiests do. What I do is more like a gut feeling.
              What makes your gut feeling right, and the gut feeling of a muslim or a hindu wrong? Why do people in the US usually have correct gut feelings while people in Pakistan usually do not?

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              • #547
                Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                ???? Again, I'm talking about faith. You don't seem to be. Faith isn't about determining who is right.
                Then what is this business about absolute truth?
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #548
                  Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                  What makes your gut feeling right, and the gut feeling of a muslim or a hindu wrong?
                  Faith.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • #549
                    Originally posted by Asher View Post
                    How the **** did I say you can know EVERYTHING with reason, when I've said comments like this:
                    I consider myself agnostic because I can't say for 100% certainty if there is or is not a God. I can say that the religions as we know them today are all absurd. Christianity, Scientology, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, whatever. They don't pass the sniff test.
                    You are denying the possibility that you can know anything by faith. That's the reason you give why people don't have faith. Therefore you are saying that you can know everything rationally.
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                    • #550
                      Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                      You are denying the possibility that you can know anything by faith. That's the reason you give why people don't have faith. Therefore you are saying that you can know everything rationally.
                      No, what he's saying is that what can't be known rationally simply can't be known.

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                      • #551
                        Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                        What makes your gut feeling right, and the gut feeling of a muslim or a hindu wrong? Why do people in the US usually have correct gut feelings while people in Pakistan usually do not?
                        Again, are you guys understanding the words I myself am using. Do you know what the word absurd means? If what I believe is absurd then how can I tell you why I'm right?
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                        • #552
                          Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                          No, what he's saying is that what can't be known rationally simply can't be known.
                          No he's not. He's saying that I'm wrong. That's clear. He's saying that I believe in fantasies. That is his words.
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                          • #553
                            Originally posted by Asher View Post
                            Then what is this business about absolute truth?
                            Absolute truths can not be determined. God deals in secrets.
                            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                            • #554
                              Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                              Again, are you guys understanding the words I myself am using. Do you know what the word absurd means? If what I believe is absurd then how can I tell you why I'm right?
                              Why have a belief you can't even justify? Just because there are probably some truths we would find absurd, we're supposed to arbitrarily pick a few absurd things to believe?

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                              • #555
                                Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                                God deals in secrets.
                                How do you know this?
                                “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                                "Capitalism ho!"

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