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  • #481
    Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
    i'll write a proper response when i have time tomorrow.

    however i will say two things, firstly when you write 'binge of stupidity' and then have the gall to call me condescending, it's quite funny. secondly, my analogy is a very apt one. you (and i don't just mean you personally, i've pulled up mobius on this before) when talking about religion, are like the guy bleating on about BBC basic in a discussion about programming today. the arguments and debates have moved on. the 'base' upon which religion is constructed and argued for has changed. the arguments against have also changed. you are out of date.
    This is pretty retarded. What else is there to say?

    Arguments pertaining to religion have not "moved on" just because you think they have.

    Binge of stupidity seems very apt here. And no, the comparison with BBC Basic is extremely ridiculous because religious beliefs and philosophical arguments are not deprecated or obsoleted like technology is.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    • #482
      Spent a few minutes trying to learn more about WTF c0ckney is talking about, but all I kept finding was stuff that told me rationalism is alive and well?

      eg
      BBC - Religions - Atheism: Rationalism
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/atheism/types/rationalism.shtml
      This article looks at God and religion from the position of rationalism, an approach to life based on reason and evidence.


      This is completely strange if these debates have "moved on", no?

      What does "moved on" mean, anyway? Rationalism is no longer valid?

      God, what a ****.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • #483
        Does that word start with a "c"?
        "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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        • #484
          It could. It's a synonym for the one that starts with "t".
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #485
            Yeah, that's the one I would have picked. It expresses a certain anger/disgust vibe I was feeling from you.
            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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            • #486
              Why is that even censored anymore? I think all pretense of civility in the OT went out long ago.
              "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
              "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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              • #487
                I think all pretense of civility in the OT went out long ago.
                So did all the females. Consistency

                "Females"... Inconsistency

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                • #488
                  Females.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • #489
                    Asher, you go down on females now ?
                    "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                    • #490
                      Why do you hate me?
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #491
                        Originally posted by Asher View Post
                        Knowledge of science replaces supernatural beliefs of the unknown. Instead of thinking the Gods make the sun rise, we know exactly why the Sun rises.


                        This is like wrestling with a 5 year old child. Think before you post.

                        How is this not obvious to you?

                        The more we understand about the world, the less we turn to fantasy and supernatural explanations. Those are what religions are based on.
                        Er no. People don't actually believe in fantasy. They know that it's their imagination.
                        You want me to explain science to you?
                        I guess you figured to make your whole post stupid with this one. No, I don't need you to explain science to me. I understand science better than you. I'm explaining it to you dumb ****.

                        You are trying to tell me that science is some kind of substitute for faith. You are doing a very ****ty job of it. Please try again.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                        • #492
                          Originally posted by Kidicious View Post


                          This is like wrestling with a 5 year old child. Think before you post.
                          Why the **** do you wrestle with 5 year old children?

                          Are you training to become a priest?

                          Er no. People don't actually believe in fantasy. They know that it's their imagination.
                          Yes, they do! They call it religion.

                          There's a omnipotent being that created us and/or governs how we live.

                          How the **** is that not fantasy?

                          I guess you figured to make your whole post stupid with this one. No, I don't need you to explain science to me. I understand science better than you.


                          You are trying to tell me that science is some kind of substitute for faith. You are doing a very ****ty job of it. Please try again.
                          What the ****? It's not a substitute for faith, it shows us that religious concepts are extremely unlikely, pretty ****ing absurd, and almost wholly illogical.

                          You can still have faith and be a man of science (like JM), but this is a fairly rare breed. In general terms, the more educated one becomes with the science of our world the less religious they are. This is a simple fact.
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • #493
                            Originally posted by Asher View Post
                            Spent a few minutes trying to learn more about WTF c0ckney is talking about, but all I kept finding was stuff that told me rationalism is alive and well?

                            eg
                            BBC - Religions - Atheism: Rationalism
                            http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/atheism/types/rationalism.shtml
                            This article looks at God and religion from the position of rationalism, an approach to life based on reason and evidence.


                            This is completely strange if these debates have "moved on", no?

                            What does "moved on" mean, anyway? Rationalism is no longer valid?

                            God, what a ****.
                            Another problem with rationalism is that it assumes that the popular belief is the true belief. You also seem to believe that. So maybe you would like to back that up.
                            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                            • #494
                              Originally posted by Asher View Post
                              Why the **** do you wrestle with 5 year old children?

                              Are you training to become a priest?


                              Yes, they do! They call it religion.

                              There's a omnipotent being that created us and/or governs how we live.

                              How the **** is that not fantasy?





                              What the ****? It's not a substitute for faith, it shows us that religious concepts are extremely unlikely, pretty ****ing absurd, and almost wholly illogical.

                              You can still have faith and be a man of science (like JM), but this is a fairly rare breed. In general terms, the more educated one becomes with the science of our world the less religious they are. This is a simple fact.
                              You're contradicting yourself. I don't expect you to see it.
                              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                              • #495
                                By the way, it was just as unlikely that Jesus turned water into wine before the scientific revolution.
                                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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