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  • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
    I don't know of any other religion that claims that every human being is created to believe in their God besides Christianity. Even Islam believes that Jews and Christians are not meant to be Muslim.
    Oh, also, I forgot to mention Lorizaelism. It's my religion, and it states that I am an omnipotent time traveler from the future who gave birth to life on Earth billions of years ago and implanted our genetic code with the message ATGC, which is an acronym for Attention Triffids (I was wrong about which species would become dominant), Go Commando. I'm telling everyone to go commando because I used to go commando when I was a teenager, so if you do that, you're believing in me by following in my foot steps. Since all of this is true, my religion must be correct.
    Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
    "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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    • Why do you no longer go commando?
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • It certainly isn't because of inadvertent and embarrassing stains, that's for sure.
        Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
        "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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        • I'm sure
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
            Oh, I see. So faith is defined as good qualities you believe other people possess.
            So you have finally started to grasp my argument. Good.
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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            • "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                It turns out that as education systems improve and most people are equipped with better problem-solving skills, religious faith declines. That should tell you something.
                Education has definitely improved. That's another thing that you claim that I disagree with you about, when I don't actually disagree with you. All I'm saying is that there are some people who have their thinking limited, in that they are not able to think beyond the rational. And faith has indeed declined (again no argument here), but what does the ability to think more rational have to do with the ability to think even higher?
                The key phrase is "when there are no other explanations". When we understand our world, faith in the supernatural diminishes and is replaced by knowledge of the natural.
                That makes no sense. Explain how knowledge of science increases our knowledge of the supernatural or lack there of?
                This is why religion is a dying concept. This is why church attendance is down. It's on a slow slide to obscurity.
                And similarly why does the increase knowledge of science lead to lower church attendance?
                It doesn't change the fact that the default human condition is inclined to believe in the supernatural until we know better. We just know better now. Well, most of us.
                If you know better then do please explain it to me.
                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                • Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                  The question remains why so many people go about believing in Zeus or Krishna or whatever if they're really wired to believe in Yahweh.
                  They haven't read the Bible.
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                  • Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
                    Exactly where does Christianity make this claim?
                    Genesis
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                    • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                      Genesis
                      Paul reiterates it in Romans.

                      JM
                      Jon Miller-
                      I AM.CANADIAN
                      GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                      • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                        That makes no sense. Explain how knowledge of science increases our knowledge of the supernatural or lack there of?
                        What the ****?

                        Why would I explain something so absurd and something I've clearly never said?

                        Knowledge of science replaces supernatural beliefs of the unknown. Instead of thinking the Gods make the sun rise, we know exactly why the Sun rises.

                        And similarly why does the increase knowledge of science lead to lower church attendance?
                        How is this not obvious to you?

                        The more we understand about the world, the less we turn to fantasy and supernatural explanations. Those are what religions are based on.

                        If you know better then do please explain it to me.
                        You want me to explain science to you?
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                          So you have finally started to grasp my argument. Good.
                          You were a good troll as a Commie, and now you're an even better troll as a Fundie. Grats.
                          Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
                          "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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                          • Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                            From the Bible.
                            And Hebrews 11:17 "By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice."

                            Nowhere in the Bible does it say that by faith we believe that the sun comes up every morning. Indeed, even the athiests believe that. Otherwise Asher would not sleep at night.
                            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                            • The more we understand about the world, the less we turn to fantasy and supernatural explanations. Those are what religions are based on.
                              the debate has moved on somewhat in the last 200 years or so...
                              "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                              "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                              • Clearly it has not.
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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