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  • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    It stopped being interesting when asher jumped in with his OMFG ISREAL BLEW UP SOME INDUSTRIAL EQUIPMENT AND NO OEN DIED AND THAT IS TARGIC
    Do all Canadians sound the same to you? Wezil started that.
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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    • Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
      Read the OP, Asher's comment, the first sentence of one of AS' responses, and the entirety of one of DD's

      I'm truly honored.
      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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      • Your posts are on average more interesting than albie's.

        Or at least shorter.
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        • Originally posted by Asher View Post
          Just occurred to me.

          Lebensraum = self-defense.

          Once neighboring countries were occupied, the threat an invasion by that country went way, way down.

          Fact.
          QFT
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          GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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          • Clausewitz teaches us that war exists always because of the defense. If there were no guys defending anything there'd be no war.
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            • Nothing will ever change down there. The sooner we suck the place dry out of oil the better. Then they can go kill themselves by the millions. Nukes just speed up that process...
              "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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              • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                If that was true, they'd have been happy with something other than The Holy City, wouldn't they?
                Not when the Holy City is the ancient heart of the Jewish nation, crucial to the traditions of the proud Hebrew people, and other **** no non-Israeli has any reason to respect. While religion has done its fair share of the damage in the region (esp. crack-brained American evangelicals who support Israel because of their theories on the End Times), a lot of the problem in Israel appears to be good ol' ethnic nationalism, and I don't think you should omit that.
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                • Originally posted by Elok View Post
                  Not when the Holy City is the ancient heart of the Jewish nation, crucial to the traditions of the proud Hebrew people
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • Yes, that was intended to be sarcastic, Asher.
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                    • The Christians are also not all that eager to have Jerusalem controlled by the Arabs because then they would likely be kicked out along with the Jews.
                      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                      • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                        The Christians are also not all that eager to have Jerusalem controlled by the Arabs because then they would likely be kicked out along with the Jews.
                        As you can see, this has nothing to do with religion.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • I'd have to dig back to be sure, and I can't be arsed, but I don't think I said it had nothing to do with religion, I said it was primarily an ethnic struggle.
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                          • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                            As you can see, this has nothing to do with religion.
                            Attacking Iran has nothing to do with religion. The diplomacy regarding Jerusalem has a lot to do with religion. Iran's stance against Israel is in many ways a power play because as Persians many of them couldn't give a **** about what happens to the Arabs but they can increase their influence by supporting Hezbollah and Hamas.

                            Preventing Iran from getting nukes isn't about religion, it's about defense. The issue of Palestine is a totally different thing.
                            If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                            • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                              Attacking Iran has nothing to do with religion.
                              Yup. Nothing at all.

                              Israel would be attacking Iran if Iran was filled with Jews as well, right?
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                                Yup. Nothing at all.

                                Israel would be attacking Iran if Iran was filled with Jews as well, right?
                                Yeah, if those Jews were trying to destroy Israel they would. Christian nations fight wars with each other. Muslim nations fight wars with each other.
                                If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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