Christianity ruins families.

[Princess Peach]

bigoted internet troll?

I think the definition of that is "someone who expressed concepts over the tubes to which you object strenuously."

Bigot:

A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices. The correct use of the term requires the elements of intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs.

The term has evolved to refer to persons hostile to people of differing race, ethnicity, nationality, sexual orientation, and religion in modern English usage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry

Internet Troll:

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2] In addition to the offending poster, the noun “troll” can also refer to the provocative message itself, as in that was an excellent troll you posted. While the term troll and its associated action, trolling, are primarily associated with Internet discourse, media attention in recent years has made such labels highly subjective, with 'trolling' being used to describe many intentionally provocative actions outside of an online context.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29

Actually, that's the definition. It describes you to a T.

[Elok]

Well, to get things back on track (I'd like to note in passing that Moby is possibly the most clueless atheist I've ever met; he keeps repeating that perfectly idiotic, simplistic argument as though it's QED), Asher, getting drunk at an emotionally tense occasion is generally a bad idea unless you know for sure you'll be a happy drunk who will relieve the tension. I wouldn't do it, if for no other reason than because your brother and SIL-to-be will be under a lot of stress already.

Certainly the bride will be. Even in a normal wedding, the lady in white is generally buried alive under nosy, pushy relatives, demands from caterers and a billion other people demanding her attention, and the perverted ultimatums of the monstrosity known as the wedding industry. Plus I think women are naturally more emotionally invested in it somehow.

With that in mind, I'd say your top priority should be to support the couple and keep them strong by all means available. You won't make up for the mother doing her fanatic routine (which, of course, you can't help), but you can try. I am, however, surprised that this whole possibility wasn't addressed beforehand...did the bride not know her mother as well as she thought she did? Or did they expect something like this, and brace for it ahead of time?

[Ben Kenobi]

bigoted internet troll?

I think the definition of that is "someone who expressed concepts over the tubes to which you object strenuously."

[Princess Peach]

Does that mean that person would be able to tell that you are a bigoted internet troll just by looking at you?

[Ben Kenobi]

Not necessarily. Someone else would be able to understand by me telling them whats going on. If they knew everything about me before I had said anything I would probably accuse them of stalking and file a lawsuit.

Ok, I'm just saying that someone with this gift might be able to know all this just by looking at you.

[Princess Peach]

Imagine you have a counselor with Knowledge as a spiritual gift.

Aren't they going to have an ability to relate and understand you that others wouldn't?

Not necessarily. Someone else would be able to understand by me telling them whats going on. If they knew everything about me before I had said anything I would probably accuse them of stalking and file a lawsuit.

[Ben Kenobi]

Wouldn't that be sorcery? No wait, woudn't that mean he was a mind reader? Like Edward in Twilight? Omg does this mean you like Twilight?

Imagine you have a counselor with Knowledge as a spiritual gift.

Aren't they going to have an ability to relate and understand you that others wouldn't?

[Princess Peach]

I think I just used a Ben tactic to form an argument that wasn't there. Go me.

[Princess Peach]

Not just knowledge about God. Remember when Christ would look at someone and know what they have done in their life? That's part of Knowledge.

Wouldn't that be sorcery? No wait, woudn't that mean he was a mind reader? Like Edward in Twilight? Omg does this mean you like Twilight?

[Ben Kenobi]

The knowledge that Paul is referring to is knowledge about God.

Not just knowledge about God. Remember when Christ would look at someone and know what they have done in their life? That's part of Knowledge.

[Jon Miller]

The knowledge that Paul is referring to is knowledge about God.

JM

[Ben Kenobi]

Knowledge isn't a gift you don't all of a sudden wake up and know things.

That's what revelation is. Some people do in fact wake up knowing things they never studied.

Well, BK might think he does but that isn't how it works. If it were, then what is the point of going to school to gain knowledge

1, revelation doesn't work like that. 2. not everyone has the gift. 3. Of those who have the gift, they only learn certain things through revelation. 4, study can open your mind to these things too. It's not an either/or thing. Knowledge aquired through revelation supplements knowledge acquired through other means.

[Princess Peach]

Knowledge isn't a gift you don't all of a sudden wake up and know things. Well, BK might think he does but that isn't how it works. If it were, then what is the point of going to school to gain knowledge.

[Ben Kenobi]

knowledge iisn't a gift because people obtain it by their own actions. I guess Paul made a typo.

knowledge through revelation?

[Princess Peach]

That's not on the list.

Intelligence is a talent, not a gift.

Sorry, Knowledge. You lack that as well. But lets not disregard the rest of the list.