Christianity ruins families.

[Hauldren Collider]

Actually I am in fact tired of every thread remotely related to religion or homosexuality getting jacked by Ban's (I mean Ben, ****, Freudian slip) unbelievable levels of self-deception and retardation.

[Al B. Sure!]

Gribbler I hate to say this to you but the sooner you shut up, the sooner BK ****s off.

Hey HC, no one's forcing you to read this thread unless you want to continue the discussion of Asher's family or Imran's conversion which were the topics before this prayer thing...

And BK will never shut up regardless. He's commanded to spread God's Word.

[giblets]

That's a good question. So, take that to the logical conclusion. Wouldn't that mean that God is aware of us totally? All our thoughts and not just prayer?

Yes Yahweh is a scary totalitarian. What's your point?

[Hauldren Collider]

Gribbler I hate to say this to you but the sooner you shut up, the sooner BK ****s off.

[giblets]

Mary must be getting tired of praying by now. Millions of Catholics are asking her to pray every day.

[Ben Kenobi]

You said it's his prerogative. Which makes me wonder what the point in intercessory prayer is, because if God is omniscient he know what you want whether you pray or not.

That's a good question. So, take that to the logical conclusion. Wouldn't that mean that God is aware of us totally? All our thoughts and not just prayer?

[Al B. Sure!]

Praying for others makes some sense in Christianity because people are supposed to love one another. But I don't get the whole "God prays to God who tells Mary who then prays to God" thing.

I told you.... the first God is the Holy Ghost, then the second God is Christ, and the third is God God.

[Al B. Sure!]

How so? Three persons in one God. There's only one God, Albert.

I know... like Hinduism... the Trinity of Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva are part of the great Brahman... and there are Avatars, incarnations if you will, of God sent to earth to teach man.

[giblets]

Apparently, Ben already answered this point. He said we are COMMANDED to pray.

Praying for others makes some sense in Christianity because people are supposed to love one another. But I don't get the whole "God prays to God who tells Mary who then prays to God" thing.

[Al B. Sure!]

You said it's his prerogative. Which makes me wonder what the point in intercessory prayer is, because if God is omniscient he know what you want whether you pray or not.



God is praying to God?

Apparently, Ben already answered this point. He said we are COMMANDED to pray.

[giblets]

Are you God?

You said it's his prerogative. Which makes me wonder what the point in intercessory prayer is, because if God is omniscient he know what you want whether you pray or not.

He also prays alongside me and helps me to pray. God is the Father, Son and Holy spirit. With the Spirit proceeding from the love of the Father and the Son.

God is praying to God?

[Al B. Sure!]

Ask Him, and see what he says. God hears all prayers, whether from one man or many.

I prayed to God and he spoke to me! I couldn't believe it! He said everyone has it all wrong. His holy house is a hut in modern Kinshasha... we are to pray at an alter made of giraffe bones and llama skins and sacrifice the sacred billy goat in his name! God is great! I'm off to spread his Holy Gospel! Isn't God great?

[Ben Kenobi]

No wonder Muslims call Christians polytheists!

How so? Three persons in one God. There's only one God, Albert.

[Ben Kenobi]

So Mary's prayers don't make a difference.

Are you God?

God gives it to God? Are you insane?

He also prays alongside me and helps me to pray. God is the Father, Son and Holy spirit. With the Spirit proceeding from the love of the Father and the Son.

[Ben Kenobi]

I am asking you what is the advantage to having others pray in support of your case?

Why does it have to have an advantage? We are told that we are to pray for one another. This is a commandment. This is God wanting us to do something.

Does it affect God's decision-making at all?

It affects us. We as Christians are to support one another in our trials here on Earth. One of the ways we do so is through prayer.

Is the prayer of a lone man in the wilderness less important than the prayer of a thousand people and Mary and St. Peter and whoever else?

Ask Him, and see what he says. God hears all prayers, whether from one man or many.

You'll probably say God determines the value of the prayer so what is the purpose of praying for others when God isn't swayed by more people praying?

One, I never said that God wasn't influenced by many people. Two, I didn't say that God wouldn't answer prayers said by one person. He hears all prayers. Whether he chooses to answer them is his prerogative, and they will be answered on his schedule. As I said, he is not deterministic.