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  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    Ok. So you work on commission.

    At least I have the honour to bill my clients for hours worked.
    Where the **** do you get commission?

    I work a salary job (full time), and my own projects I don't bill hourly. I tell them if they want _X_, it costs _Y_.

    **** you for implying anything about honour.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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    • I'm not going to take money from a mentally retarded, socially inept sad ****.
      Because you'd lose. Duly noted.

      You cite statistics central to your argument, you back them up. That's how it works.
      I've said, look em up yourself. They are not difficult stats to find.
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      • I work a salary job (full time), and my own projects I don't bill hourly. I tell them if they want _X_, it costs _Y_.
        So do you inform them of the hours it would take for you to accomplish the task?
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        • No results found for "girls are three times as likely to be sexually assaulted as boys".
          Darn, Google couldn't find Ben's statistic.

          I tried replacing the second 'as' with 'than' and a few other things but no luck.

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          • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
            So do you inform them of the hours it would take for you to accomplish the task?
            No, I do not bill by the hour. What do you not understand?

            The projects I do on my own time are individual, independent projects. I give them a timeline for when it will be done and how much I will charge for it, they understand I work a full-time job as well.

            I get paid a deposit with when the contract is signed then I get paid the balance once UAT is complete and they sign off.
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
              Because you'd lose. Duly noted.



              I've said, look em up yourself. They are not difficult stats to find.
              I am not doing your work for you. If they're so easy to find, you can cite them.

              Stop being so dishonest.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • I always bill for each hour I actually work. That way the client can say they got value for their money.
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                • sexual assault statistics boys girls

                  Gribbler, that will find it.

                  Asher, for a tech professional, I sure have to hold your hand.
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                  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                    I always bill for each hour I actually work. That way the client can say they got value for their money.
                    Why should people be paid according to the hours of work they do, instead of the product they are selling? You're thinking like a socialist.

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                    • I enjoy making money off socialists.
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                      • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                        I always bill for each hour I actually work. That way the client can say they got value for their money.
                        What the **** kind of logic is this?

                        When you buy goods at the store, you buy the end product...you don't bill the manufacturer per hour of labour.

                        I sell small, custom products. Mostly internal apps (my first was for a GTA small real estate company -- I fell into the job after my realtor in finding this place found out I was a software developer and asked if I knew someone who could build a app he wanted).

                        These kinds of people don't understand what's involved in technology, nor do they care. They don't want to deal with hourly invoices. They have a problem and they want a solution, and they pay for the solution as a product. "You give me $20,000, I'll solve that problem for you"

                        The real money is in the support contracts, though.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                          Look em up, check em out. The truth will set you free, Asher.
                          You're so lazy.

                          What do you think my advisor would have said to me while I was working on my thesis if we had this exchange? Professor/advisor: "You need to cite your evidence and sources more clearly in your footnotes on this page."

                          "Okay, you can look up those sources for me, and then you will see what I'm talking about."

                          Here's how argumentation is suppose to work Benny; you cite sources for arguments that YOU are making. You don't ask someone else to cite sources for your own points.
                          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                          • These kinds of people don't understand what's involved in technology, nor do they care. They don't want to deal with hourly invoices. They have a problem and they want a solution, and they pay for the solution as a product.
                            Works a bit differently when you sell a service, not a product.
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                            • What do you think my advisor would have said to me while I was working on my thesis if we had this exchange? Professor/advisor: "You need to cite your evidence and sources more clearly in your footnotes on this page."
                              Professionally? I usually rely on primary sources only.

                              Here's how argumentation is suppose to work Benny; you cite sources for arguments that YOU are making. You don't ask someone else to cite sources for your own points.
                              This isn't original research.
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                              • 95% of Catholics admit to fantasizing about molesting kids... prove me wrong. The sources are out there, so go find them.

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