What does modern Israel have in common with 1950's Alabama?

[Wezil]

I can understand why Israel wouldn't want the UNHRC to look at this but the fact they reject any and all outside investigations tells me lots. It's a short list these days to be sure, but Israel does still have one or two friends in the international community.

[C0ckney]

welsh culture

"ow whas you're smoking there bra, les 'ave a rip on tha...wha ew mean '**** off' i'll ****ing stab ew"

"i tell ew wha, this place it's ****ing fabulous, ****ing great, isn't it, ow waiter...ow butt! les 'ave another ****ing bottle of that ****ing champange over 'yer is it butt...yeah the cheap one butt"

"ow, mush, can i borrow 40p for the phone box (why does the phone have a crack habit too), noah, noah, i needs to call my mother see, she's in 'ospital and i needs to call her to see wha time i needs to...(walks off)"

"yeah i'm outside spar, spar"

[RGBVideo]

I have recieved death threats for approaching or talking to arab girls.
My friends have been ****ing/dating arab girls, but it has to be in secret as their family/tribe/junta/whatever will kill them. Both of them.

Yeah, this is what's behind the **** described in the OP. Arabs have a one-way dating culture integrated into Islam. Guys can **** around all they want, girls are pretty much treated as closely watched cattle and arranged into marriages with arabs only (this is the real reason for burqa widely worn by women from Islamic cultures -- when you're dressed up in a black sack, flirting with guys who aren't your relatives gets pretty hard). It's ethnic warfare, has existed ever since Muhammed moved into Medunah 622 and started gathering up his harem of young girls from non-muslims.

Disgusting story all around; does anyone have better solutions to this other than "1950's Alabama" counter-methods?

[Mortabis]

So, if Israel boarding a ship funded by terrorist sympathizers attempting to break a blockade enforced so as to keep said terrorists from getting missiles is a crime...

Then what about shooting missiles into Israeli civilian population centers, or shooting RPGs at school buses, or suicide bombing hospitals, nightclubs, restaurants, holy sites, and business districts? Are those war crimes? Are they better or worse than Israel's alleged infractions?

For your information, Israel's alliance is extremely useful to us. Our anti-ballistic missile system is based almost entirely on their technology (Yes, theirs, it was developed there independently from us for a long time before we took interest). A very important segment of the intelligence we gather on high ranking terrorists leading to their capture or elimination comes from Mossad; more information comes from them than we will ever hear in the news. They provide us with a foothold in an important region in the world. They support us in the UN and international arena consistently. They provide us with training in counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency tactics (don't underestimate the value of this). They also allow us to play good cop-bad cop games with the Arabs (Hey Iran, please pretty please stop building nukes, or Israel might come in and wallop you that might not be so good). They support our interests when we're too ***** to do it ourselves. They are willing to bite the bullet of PR backlash when things must be done, unlike us (sometimes). They get things done. But this is not all. The list goes on and on.

Then again, that stuff doesn't even matter because America isn't especially concerned with the pragmatic aspects of our policy in the first place. Unlike Europeans, who are hopelessly stupid in these matters, America is far more concerned with principle, as we should be. And principle is on Israel's side.

In other news, Israel has, predictably, won the battle of public opinion in the United States:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/israel_the_middle_east/49_say_pro_palestinian_activists_to_blame_in_gaza_ship_incident

Forty-nine percent (49%) of U.S. voters believe pro-Palestinian activists on the Gaza-bound aid ships raided by Israeli forces are to blame for the deaths that resulted in the high-profile incident.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 19% of voters think the Israelis are to blame. Thirty-two percent (32%) more are not sure.

But 51% say Israel should allow an international investigation of the incident. Twenty-five percent (25%) agree with the Israeli government and reject the idea of an international probe. Another 24% are undecided.

In the May 31 incident, nine people were killed when Israeli commandos raided an aid ship headed from Turkey to break the Israeli blockade imposed on the Palestinian Gaza Strip.

While a number of countries have called for an international investigation of the incident, the Israeli government is skeptical of such probes arguing that the participants are often biased against the Jewish state.

Nearly half (49%) of U.S. voters agree that, generally speaking, most countries are too critical of Israel. Twenty-one percent (21%) say those countries are not critical enough. Seventeen percent (17%) say neither.

(Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

The survey of 1,000 Likely U.S. Voters was conducted on June 3-4, 2010 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

At the United Nations and in other international forums, the United States often finds itself as one of Israel’s few defenders, but just 24% say, generally speaking, America is too supportive of Israel. Thirty-three percent (33%) say the United States is not supportive enough, while 32% say neither is the case.

Israel is one of only five countries that most Americans are willing to defend militarily.

Republicans feel much more strongly than Democrats and voters not affiliated with either party that pro-Palestinian activists are to blame for the deadly outcome on the Gaza-bound aid ships.

While 65% of Democrats and 50% of unaffiliateds favor an international investigation, Republicans are evenly divided on the idea.

One possible explanation is that nearly two-thirds (65%) of GOP voters think most countries are too critical of Israel, a view shared by just 37% of Democrats and a plurality (46%) of unaffiliated voters.

Similarly, Republicans are more than twice as likely as Democrats to think the United States is not supportive enough of Israel. Unaffiliated voters are more narrowly divided.

Last year at this time, 35% criticized President Obama for not being supportive enough of Israel, while 48% said the president’s Middle East policy was about right.

Seventy percent (70%) of voters say they have been following recent news reports about the incident involving the ships carrying aid to the Gaza Strip at least somewhat closely. Twenty-eight percent (28%) have not been following closely, if at all.

Seventy-three percent (73%) of voters think it is unlikely that lasting peace between the Israelis and Palestinians will be achieved in the next 10 years, consistent with findings going back several years. Fifty-eight percent (58%) view Israel as a U.S. ally and two percent (2%) as an enemy, with 32% saying the country is somewhere in between the two.

By comparison, just 30% see the United Nations, which has been pushing for an international probe of the ship incident, as an ally of the United States. Sixteen percent (16%) see the UN as America’s enemy, and 49% put it somewhere in between.

Israel has every right to defend itself. Israel is a free country in the middle east; an endangered species. Israel will continue to enjoy the support of the United States of America and its people through the good and the bad, so get used to it.

[Kuciwalker]

So, if Israel boarding a ship funded by terrorist sympathizers attempting to break a blockade enforced so as to keep said terrorists from getting missiles is a crime...

False premise. The blockade is intended to inflict economic distress in addition to interdicting weapons.

[Mortabis]

So, if Israel boarding a ship funded by terrorist sympathizers attempting to break a blockade enforced so as to keep said terrorists from getting missiles is a crime...

False premise. The blockade is intended to inflict economic distress in addition to interdicting weapons.

If that were true they wouldn't let so much aid in. Argue on my points.

[Imran Siddiqui]

America is far more concerned with principle

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You should probably study some history.

[Kuciwalker]

If it weren't true then they wouldn't interdict anything but weapons!

xpost

[Mortabis]

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You should probably study some history.

Millions for defense, not one cent for tribute!

[MOBIUS]

So, if Israel boarding a ship funded by terrorist sympathizers attempting to break a blockade enforced so as to keep said terrorists from getting missiles is a crime...

Then what about shooting missiles into Israeli civilian population centers, or shooting RPGs at school buses, or suicide bombing hospitals, nightclubs, restaurants, holy sites, and business districts? Are those war crimes? Are they better or worse than Israel's alleged infractions?

For your information, Israel's alliance is extremely useful to us. Our anti-ballistic missile system is based almost entirely on their technology (Yes, theirs, it was developed there independently from us for a long time before we took interest). A very important segment of the intelligence we gather on high ranking terrorists leading to their capture or elimination comes from Mossad; more information comes from them than we will ever hear in the news. They provide us with a foothold in an important region in the world. They support us in the UN and international arena consistently. They provide us with training in counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency tactics (don't underestimate the value of this). They also allow us to play good cop-bad cop games with the Arabs (Hey Iran, please pretty please stop building nukes, or Israel might come in and wallop you that might not be so good). They support our interests when we're too ***** to do it ourselves. They are willing to bite the bullet of PR backlash when things must be done, unlike us (sometimes). They get things done. But this is not all. The list goes on and on.

Then again, that stuff doesn't even matter because America isn't especially concerned with the pragmatic aspects of our policy in the first place. Unlike Europeans, who are hopelessly stupid in these matters, America is far more concerned with principle, as we should be. And principle is on Israel's side.

In other news, Israel has, predictably, won the battle of public opinion in the United States:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/israel_the_middle_east/49_say_pro_palestinian_activists_to_blame_in_gaza_ship_incident

Israel has every right to defend itself. Israel is a free country in the middle east; an endangered species. Israel will continue to enjoy the support of the United States of America and its people through the good and the bad, so get used to it.

So, your argument is because some terrorists routinely fire missiles at Israel, it's OK for Israel to behave in a similarly murderous manner to a completely different set of people on peace convoy that has never fired a single missile at Israel - whose only tangible threat to Israel is to expose their evil and barbaric treatment of 1.5m civilians in the world's largest concentration camp...

The thing you simplistic morons don't understand is that once you resort to the same sorts of terrorist tactics that you so hypocritically condemn - you are no better than terrorists yourself...

[Riesstiu IV]

Did you know the Jews killed Jesus?

[Mortabis]

My argument is that what they do is a) not terrorist in nature and b) done to fight terrorists, which is something that, as an American, I think is important. They killed 9 terrorist sympathizers on that boat. I'm not fooled, not many in the United States are fooled, and I try not to let it bother me that Europe is perpetually fooled.

[MOBIUS]

Millions for defense, not one cent for tribute!

Tell you Israeli handlers that posting their lies on this forum is a waste of time.

[Kuciwalker]

If we gassed the Gaza Strip we'd probably kill over a million terrorist sympathizers

[dannubis]

Europe hates on israel whether it breaks so-called international law or not, the law really isn't the issue at hand here, why are you still hung up about this?

Oh great, more juvenile drivel...

"You are either with us or against us" type of arguments don't hold in the real world. When you grow up you will realize this.

That or you continue to bark nonsense tucked safely away in the US.