What does modern Israel have in common with 1950's Alabama?

[KrazyHorse]

Called what, you crazy person?

[Kuciwalker]

I have a feeling you're going to be clueless about what I just posted (and KH is viewing this thread so he'll butt in with some retarded mess), so I'll break it down Barney-style.

There is no contradiction in Ozzy observing

1) A lot of Jews being opposed to intermarriage
and
2) A lot of Jews stating that they think intermarriage is destroying the Jewish people (these Jews apparently don't think ENOUGH Jews are opposed to intermarriage [ie- it doesn't have to be factually true])

He can observe both of these situations very easily and would not be contradicting himself in any way by stating his observations.

Get it?

Sure, it's not a contradiction if you make the implausible and incorrect assumption that Jews are overestimating the amount of intermarriage.

[Al B. Sure!]

I hate to mess with HC's and Kuci's idyllic view of Jewish society but...

Read the Torah a bit...
Specifically, Deuteronomy 7:3-4:

You shall not intermarry with them; you shall not give your daughter to his son, and you shall not take his daughter for your son, for he will cause your child to turn away from after Me and they will worship the gods of others then the L–rd’s wrath will burn against you, and He will destroy you quickly.

Check out http://www.chabad.org/library/articl...ermarriage.htm

Really read it. It might open up your eyes.

If a man finds himself with a choice between two women, one Jewish and one non-Jewish, should he marry the Jewish woman just because she is Jewish?

The answer is a resounding “Yes!” Yes, because therein lies the potential for a truly Jewish marriage. Although at present there seems to be no difference between the Jew and non-Jew, as people grow older they change and mature. The vicissitudes, strains and challenges of life pull a person in all directions. If one is at least married to a Jew, there is common ground and potential to grow. That is certainly not the case in an intermarriage.

There is, of course, the argument that the percentage of intermarriages is considerable and many of them seem to last. However, the statistics show that the percentage of separations and divorces among intermarried couples is incomparably greater than among marriages within the faith. Secondly, many married people try to put on the appearance of a “happy” marriage, being ashamed to confess failure and to reveal the frictions and indignities suffered at home. In an intermarriage the sense of shame is even greater, knowing that many friends had warned against it, while the couple had maintained that their marriage would be different.

[Kuciwalker]

I hate to mess with HC's and Kuci's idyllic view of Jewish society but...

Read the Torah a bit...

[KrazyHorse]

What's incredible is how similar everything he's posted has been to the statements of priests at my high school regarding interfaith marriages...

[Al B. Sure!]

Sure, it's not a contradiction if you make the implausible and incorrect assumption that Jews are overestimating the amount of intermarriage.

What are you saying? That those Jews were not overestimating the amount of intermarriage? That the levels they suspected were true and that the Jewish people are being bred into extinction?

[Kuciwalker]

The one doesn't imply the other. In particular, evolution is a far more plausible outcome than extinction.

[Al B. Sure!]

Just to be clear, Chabad.org is a Jewish website (specifically Hasidic)

Chabad.org and its affiliated sites claim over 7.6 million visitors per month, and over 365,000 email subscribers

The article pretty clearly says intermarriage is wrong.

[KrazyHorse]

Are you quoting chabad as being representative of Jews as a whole?

[Al B. Sure!]

The one doesn't imply the other. In particular, evolution is a far more plausible outcome than extinction.

What?

That's not what the Jews that Ozzy observed were stating! What do you take issue with? Are you saying Ozzy is lying and he didn't observe this or that he is exaggerating the sample that he did observe? Or are you saying that the people he observed were lying?

[Kuciwalker]

I'M SAYING THAT THE INTERMARRIAGE RATE IS BOTH VERY HIGH AND NOT A THREAT.

Obviously.

[Al B. Sure!]

Are you quoting chabad as being representative of Jews as a whole?

It represents and undercurrent in Jewish society

Chabad maintains institutions in around 950 cities around the world

and up to one million Jews attend Chabad services at least once a year.

[Asher]

As fun as this is, there is no contradiction in Ozzy's posts and you were wrong to imply there was. Especially so strongly.

You're starting to become increasingly shrill, Kuci.

I see what you're trying to say, but I feel you did not read his sentences properly. His first sentence is just relaying what he's heard from some of his friends.

[Hauldren Collider]

This thread has gone way off the deep end and is very confusing.

[Kuciwalker]

Oh, stop being butthurt over the fact that I keep pwning you.

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