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  • Oh ya and its shallow but getting in buff shape probably doesn't hurt either. Before my last stint of dating I had weight-lifted and bicycled semi-obsessively as my long term relationship went into its death spiral.

    I am certain you cannot be REALLY good looking as then your problem would be being hit on all the time LOL but you can work with what you have and its amazing how many more women find a little bit of defintion to be attractive.

    Overall its about accentuating the positive.
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    • I'm still waiting for the video!
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      • Originally posted by Flubber View Post
        Oh ya and its shallow but getting in buff shape probably doesn't hurt either. Before my last stint of dating I had weight-lifted and bicycled semi-obsessively as my long term relationship went into its death spiral.

        I am certain you cannot be REALLY good looking as then your problem would be being hit on all the time LOL but you can work with what you have and its amazing how many more women find a little bit of defintion to be attractive.

        Overall its about accentuating the positive.

        How buff do I need to get before I see results?
        Last edited by Al B. Sure!; May 26, 2010, 11:26.
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        "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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        • Originally posted by Albert Speer View Post
          How buff do I need to get?
          Depends on the girl and your overall level of attractiveness but I would say there is no absolute and that it is a continuum. The buffer you get,the more women will find you attractive.

          Since physical fitness is a laudable goal in and of itself and I seem to recall you might have military plans, the synergies are obvious.

          For me I was moderately muscular when I was dating. I have no way to assess how much it mattered versus my education, job, personality etc etc. But it definitely added to my confidence. If you truly believe you look good, you have no problem approaching the super-hot girl and just talking to her.

          I keep coming back to confidence since I really think thats the key. If you believe you are worth knowing, a lot of girls will too.
          You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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          • Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
            This is just a wild, freakish and outlandish suggestion, but have you considered getting yourself into social situations where you interact with women on easy-going and friendly terms? And then asking the ones who seem particularly pleasant out on, perchance, a date?

            I realise this method contains no special, secret and ninja series of actions designed to manipulate certain types of women into bed, but then it wasn't designed for the socially retarded. It also means you're less likely to hit middle age wanting to stab yourself in the face for being a manipulative ****.
            Pervert.
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            • Originally posted by Flubber View Post
              Depends on the girl and your overall level of attractiveness but I would say there is no absolute and that it is a continuum. The buffer you get,the more women will find you attractive.
              Not strictly true. There's a limit.

              Guys who are excessively buff are ridiculous. Anyone who looks like a weight lifter is not attractive to the vast majority of people.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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              • Flubber:

                I'm not sure how much more buff would be useful in attracting women, especially with regards to military applications; lean is probably better for the military.

                Currently, I'm 6'1" 205lbs.



                I mean there's room for improvement but at this point, I think the marginal benefits are slight.

                (and I already do train a lot so further exercise won't result in much benefit except maybe lowering my bodyfat % but that's fairly low already)
                "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                • Is that really you?

                  You're in perfect shape. Don't buff up anymore, that would be disgusting.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
                    This is just a wild, freakish and outlandish suggestion, but have you considered getting yourself into social situations where you interact with women on easy-going and friendly terms? And then asking the ones who seem particularly pleasant out on, perchance, a date?

                    I realise this method contains no special, secret and ninja series of actions designed to manipulate certain types of women into bed, but then it wasn't designed for the socially retarded. It also means you're less likely to hit middle age wanting to stab yourself in the face for being a manipulative ****.


                    it's funny because it's true. speer you're a nice guy, you have some funny ideas and a questionable taste in music, but you come across as a nice, genuine guy. so when it comes to women, be a nice, genuine guy! don't pretend to be someone you're not. get into situations where you are talking to women, not with a particular goal in mind, just start talking to them, say something, make some jokes, talk about your thing (no, not that thing!), give them an opportunity to talk about what interests them and actually be interested in what they say. be relaxed and easy going, you're just talking after all. you'll know when you hit it off with someone (a good way to make sure is to make a joke that's not very funny and see if they laugh) and then you can get the number, maybe ask if they'd like to hang out sometime and there you go.

                    i got my first brasilian girls' number the other day, on the bus coming back from this amazing beach. this pretty girl came and sat down next to me, after a few minutes a i noticed her smiling at me, i smiled back. my buddy sitting on the other seat asks me where we are, i said 'i think we're near vidigal' then i turned to the girl and asked if she knew where we were as i'm not from around here. we started talking, she laughed at my crap portuguese, turns out she used to live in london and we have a lot of the same interests. we laughed a lot, so i got her number and am taking her out this evening.

                    it's that simple, talk to a girl you like the look of, see if you get along, if you do, then try to take it further. it's the most natural thing in the world.
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                    • Originally posted by Albert Speer View Post
                      How buff do I need to get before I see results?


                      Like this-

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                      • God, ****, that's awful.

                        I see guys going for that at the gym all the time. I don't know ANYONE who finds it attractive.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • Originally posted by Albert Speer View Post
                          Flubber:

                          I'm not sure how much more buff would be useful in attracting women, especially with regards to military applications; lean is probably better for the military.

                          Currently, I'm 6'1" 205lbs.



                          I mean there's room for improvement but at this point, I think the marginal benefits are slight.

                          (and I already do train a lot so further exercise won't result in much benefit except maybe lowering my bodyfat % but that's fairly low already)
                          That's pretty much perfectly in the sweet spot. No changes required. If necessary, start wearing tight clothing which shows off your body definition.

                          At least it's now clear that your problem isn't your body. Maybe your behaviour isn't congruent with your physique, and what you want?

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                          • So there's this woman that has been calling me virtually every night for a few weeks now. We talk for a while (typically at least an hour). Now what?
                            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                            • Can y'all just go find a series of connecting rooms?
                              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                              • A lot of talk in this (and other previous similar ones) on how to "act". If you're looking for a long-term relationship don't act. Be yourself. If the woman doesn't like you enough to stay, it's better that you both realise that quickly and you can get on with finding one who does like you.

                                Simple.

                                Oh, and if you're comfortable with who you are and behave accordingly, a lot of women will find that very attractive, and for more than a week or so.

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