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  • Originally posted by ricketyclik View Post
    A lot of talk in this (and other previous similar ones) on how to "act". If you're looking for a long-term relationship don't act. Be yourself. If the woman doesn't like you enough to stay, it's better that you both realise that quickly and you can get on with finding one who does like you.

    Simple.

    Oh, and if you're comfortable with who you are and behave accordingly, a lot of women will find that very attractive, and for more than a week or so.

    No, not so easy. One still has to find the right moment to act! Because otherwise that girl might wait for a move of your part for months, then accept that you're just a good friend and want to be only that. Once that happens, two things may be the outcome:
    a) You found a good friend for the next years, possibly finding each other at any point by coincidence, but you have lost years of a possible good relationship and sex.
    b) The contact gets more sparse and eventually ends when finally someone else picks up the girl since she can't wait all her life anyway. Then you're bitter.

    But of course, if looking for long term relationship, it's good to be more patient instead of showing the typical pick-up behavior.
    "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
    "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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    • Fair point.

      Act when you want to act. Presumably that will include some consideration by you as to whether it's currently the best moment, so of course you need to be awake to the other person. It's still really a matter of being yourself.

      The scenario you painted has happened to me a couple of times, and those women are still good friends, and ultimately I think I've ended up with someone more compatible, so perhaps there is more to seemingly random events than meets the eye...

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      • Originally posted by Albert Speer View Post
        So there's this woman that has been calling me virtually every night for a few weeks now. We talk for a while (typically at least an hour). Now what?
        She wants you! Does she have to write it on your forehead? Yes, women like to talk and chat via phone, but at least an hour a day, virtually every night?

        If you like her and have feelings, when you meet her next time, take her hand. As I judge you and from what you wrote as she seems to feel, this will be enough to make both your stomachs go upside down and a shiver go through the body up to your hair.
        See what happens. Most probably, she will like it and the subsequent steps are considerably easier. If she pulls her hand back a bit, wait. If she withdraws it completely, don't act again - that means it's her turn if she wants to change things.

        At any rate, just by taking her hand you can't lose your face.


        Wow, I feel like the agony auntie of a teen magazine.
        "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
        "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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        • Originally posted by Wernazuma III View Post
          Wow, I feel like the agony auntie of a teen magazine.

          And you're doing a fantastic job at it

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          • Originally posted by Albert Speer View Post
            So there's this woman that has been calling me virtually every night for a few weeks now. We talk for a while (typically at least an hour). Now what?
            Negotiate an action outing. I hesitate to call it a "date", because that has its own connotations. Arrange for the both of you to do something together which involves some actual activity, preferably physical, like walking around some place, trekking (if you have that option), and so on. It should be something you enjoy or have always wanted to do. A little bit of quirkiness doesn't hurt, either, if you're sure of what you're doing.

            Activities, or "active dates", give you a chance to be decisive and in control, and women react to that like cats to catnip. Try to make it something where the both of you will visit a number of places; that way, the woman comes to believe that she knows you for a far longer time than she actually does, because the sheer number of associates memories is so high.

            During the date/activity, set the terms. That is, you should decide what the both of you are going to do, when you're going to do it, and so on, within the constraints available. And be decisive about it. Women hate to be asked what to do. (An old friend of mine was recently telling me about just how disgustingly irritating it is when her current boyfriend asks her what they should be doing. She despises his lack of decisiveness and control.) This doesn't mean that you shouldn't consider her opinion, but that you should be in control and decisive.

            Finally, don't be afraid to pull the trigger. If you're getting signals, or IOIs (Indicators of Interest), as they are called, take a chance and go for it. Even if they're weak. Remember, this woman has been calling you every night for a week. If not now, never! Women, again, will despise you much more for not trying than for trying. Remember this beautiful little cartoon:

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            • I am almost tempted to point some girls at this thread, but I'm not sure if they'd be able to laugh or just get angry.
              Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
              Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
              We've got both kinds

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              • I doubt they will be sincere. I good number of the women I know will never admit in public what they really think with regards to sex, attraction, etc.
                Quendelie axan!

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                • Originally posted by aneeshm View Post
                  compromisationist hypergamy

                  **** you.
                  KH FOR OWNER!
                  ASHER FOR CEO!!
                  GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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                  • Originally posted by Sir Og View Post
                    I doubt they will be sincere. I good number of the women I know will never admit in public what they really think with regards to sex, attraction, etc.
                    That confirms they'd definitely be angry.
                    Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                    Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                    We've got both kinds

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                    • Originally posted by Albert Speer View Post
                      Flubber:

                      I'm not sure how much more buff would be useful in attracting women, especially with regards to military applications; lean is probably better for the military.

                      Currently, I'm 6'1" 205lbs.



                      I mean there's room for improvement but at this point, I think the marginal benefits are slight.

                      (and I already do train a lot so further exercise won't result in much benefit except maybe lowering my bodyfat % but that's fairly low already)


                      Did I really read a thread of a guy with this build that is named "how to get women"? ****, if I was still with my after-OCS physique my dick would fall off.

                      the last thing you should be doing is posting for advice from some poz-aspies that like to categorize people according to greek letters and bell-curves, that consider the acquisition of women as a variant of corporate strategy.

                      If you look like that and don't swim in *****, I feel bad for you, son. Summer is basically here, hit the beach parties, the pool parties, and you're set. Do you have friends? do your friends have girlfriends? do their girlfriends have female friends? hit the beach as a group. Go to music shows.*420*smoke weed every day*420*.Go to music festivals.

                      consider this: you're a relatively smart guy, you're fit, you're not a troll. You're in the middle of having plenty of funny experiences (military). Life's awesome. Love yourself a little bit.
                      urgh.NSFW

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                      • Maybe girls don't like him 'cause he looks like a terrist.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • I'm siding with MikeH's crowd.

                          Also, the xkcd comic aneeshm posted is completely true.

                          The single point which has kept me the most from getting girls in the past was a low self-esteem.

                          As many people have said, just be yourself, get a little more confident, and start dating literate girls
                          Indifference is Bliss

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                          • Btw, the term "action outing" is hilarious .

                            And, another thing on aneeshm's post, he's right that you want to be decisive early on, because if it turns into something, you won't have to ask "what [both of you] should be doing" as she'll already tell you what your plans are .
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                              Btw, the term "action outing" is hilarious .
                              QFT. The sentence "Negotiate an action outing" doubly so.

                              I'm going to remember aneeshm's post next time my wife tells me we have a wedding to go to. I'll just say no, resolutely stick to it, then sit back and wait for her to get back from the wedding, at which point she's sure to shower me with ***** for being so decisive and in control. I wish I'd have thought of this years ago.
                              Solomwi is very wise. - Imran Siddiqui

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                              • Indifference is Bliss

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