UK Election Poll

[flipside]

Are the nationalist parties likely to favour PR?

Yes. More votes and say for them.

[C0ckney]

Are the nationalist parties likely to favour PR?

i'm not sure, but i guess it would depend on how it's organised. if it's done regionally, then i think they might be in favour. if it's done nationally, then no chance.

i'm not sure the SNP would support it, since the big winner if scotland had PR would be the tories.

[flipside]

i'm not sure, but i guess it would depend on how it's organised. if it's done regionally, then i think they might be in favour. if it's done nationally, then no chance.

i'm not sure the SNP would support it, since the big winner if scotland had PR would be the tories.

Yeah, interesting. PR vote would depend on further devolved government as it is currently structured. I assumed that, it might not be certain.

[Ben Kenobi]

Why am I not surprised.

Fiscal conservative, social conservative, what's not to like?

Conservatives have clinched victory. Now, it remains to be seen whether a Labour/Lib Dem/Labour Coalition will have enough.

Labour/Lib Dem/Labour Coalition appears to be around 300 or so. Cons + DUP is also going to be short, by about 6 or so.

Hung parliament indeed.

[notyoueither]

I don't know if they could sneak counting each of their seats twice past Fleet Street.

[Ben Kenobi]

Labour Co-op I guess. I don't really see how they are any different than the Labour folks. Perhaps the Brits here can explain. They have 10 seats by my current count.

Adding them to the Labour and the Lib-Dems still gives them a buffer of about 5, not counting County Fermanagh.

The seat buffer for Con majority outright is still at 9, meaning that it's more likely to have a conservative majority than a Labour/LibDem/Coop/Green/Independent coalition.

[flipside]

Labour Co-op I guess. I don't really see how they are any different than the Labour folks. Perhaps the Brits here can explain. They have 10 seats by my current count.

Adding them to the Labour and the Lib-Dems still gives them a buffer of about 5, not counting County Fermanagh.

The seat buffer for Con majority outright is still at 9, meaning that it's more likely to have a conservative majority than a Labour/LibDem/Coop/Green/Independent coalition.

**** analysis. You have no clue. Please **** off.

Explainin' the level at which regional interests make a difference will be too long spread, and based on your history you will just lie, so f*** off as you have no idea.

[notyoueither]

Has Britain ever had a coalition outside of wartime?

Is the situation with the economy bad enough to make the pols stop playing football with issues for long enough?

Would the LibDems give up the Holy Grail? Would the Tories give it to them?

[notyoueither]

The Beeb is reading my mind, and mentioned the National Government of 1931 just after I asked.

Formed in a moment of financial crisis from what it sounds like.

Hmmm.

[flipside]

Better off looking at Heath '74. The subsequent election.

The £250 million that Plaid Cymru got as compensation in '79 for some miners under the minority Callaghan gov. would be a good start as well.

[flipside]

DUP have come out as no regional cuts, no formal alliances but would not vote against the Cons unless it was against local issues...*surprise*

[Ben Kenobi]

Explainin' the level at which regional interests make a difference will be too long spread, and based on your history you will just lie, so f*** off as you have no idea.

Manchester Centre- Safe Labour
Copeland - Lean Labour
Wansbeck - Lean Labour
Blyth Valley - Lean Labour
Oldham East - Lean Labour
Chorley - Labour win
(Watford - Lean Labour) which they actually managed to lose, wow.

Penrith - Safe Con
Hexham - Safe Con
Malton - Safe Con
Skipton - Safe Con
Devon West - Safe Con
Broadland - Safe Con
Hampshire NE - Safe Con
Saffron Walden - Safe Con
Kenilworth - Safe Con
Buckingham - Safe Con
Huntingdon - Safe Con

Ellesmere Port - Lean Con
Cheltenham - Lean Con
Milton Keynes - Lean Con
Amber Valley - Lean Con
Warwick - Lean Con
Norwich N - Lean Con
Lancaster - Lean Con
Morcambe - Lean Con
Westmoreland - Lean Con
Cornwall SE - Lean Con
Argyll - Lean Con

Berwick - Lead Lib
St. Ives - Lead Lib
Manchester Withington - Lean Lib

Fermanaugh - Safe Sinn Fein

Outside of London this is what you have, assuming a average shift in Favour of the tories.

So sod off. I count 22 more ridings for the Conservatives, which makes for 310, not including London.

They have a decent chance at 3 more in London. So it looks like you'll have a true hung parliament.

Conservatives + DUP won't be enough, and Lib Dem + Labour will be about 12 short.

[MikeH]

Lib Lab coalition would have 52% of voters behind it, Tory + Unionists 36.8%. And both with about the same number of seats. How could anyone argue that the Conservatives have more right to form a Government?

[flipside]

Conservatives + DUP won't be enough, and Lib Dem + Labour will be about 12 short.

I said that about 4 hours ago. It's the implications.

[MikeH]

Well mixed feelings about last night. On one hand, 6 months ago anything but a massive conservative majority looked really unlikely, so this hung parliament is great. But after the campaign the Lib Dems had it's really depressing to see them not improve (despite still getting a quarter of the vote).

And Dr Evan Harris lost to a Christian nut-job, which is terrible.

Lib Dems did get up to 2nd in Reading East though, but still a lot further behind than I'd have hoped.

First green MP though!