Militant Gay Agenda To Homosexualize Ontario Children Thwarted

[Fake Boris]

I wouldn't say it blanket like that. I had crushes as a child, but I sure as hell wouldn't call them sexual. This is assuming you're not going Freudian and interpreting the desire to defecate as a sexual urge.

I know it isn't true of everyone.

I can at the very least attest from my personal experience.

[Ecofarm]

I didn't know there was more than one use for my dk until during puberty. Of course, I'd heard about baby-making but that was a big 'whatever'. I had kissed girls my age quite young, however, and we liked it; I didn't have any kind of an urge to kiss a dude, so I guess I was set then.

[Elok]

I know it isn't true of everyone.

I can at the very least attest from my personal experience.

You heard it here, folks: early sexual experimentation could make your child grow up to become a philosopher. You can prevent this!

[Ecofarm]

Most Greeks were bi/gay. Has DNA changed so drastically in a few years or is it to some extent social?

[Asher]

Greeks are still bi/gay. Greektown in Toronto is full of gay sex.

[Fake Boris]

You heard it here, folks: early sexual experimentation could make your child grow up to become a philosopher. You can prevent this!

Philosophers focus on stuff that matters.

[giblets]

Your standards for "matters" are pretty low.

[Elok]

Prepubescent sexuality, like philosophy, has no apparent purpose but appears to be a sort of accidental misapplication of other things that do.

[Dr Strangelove]

I wouldn't say it blanket like that. I had crushes as a child, but I sure as hell wouldn't call them sexual. This is assuming you're not going Freudian and interpreting the desire to defecate as a sexual urge.

Children are by and large programmed to explore and learn. They're aware of the relationship between Mom and Dad and it's natural for them to imitate it. That often goes no further than dressing up and maybe pretending marriage. If they've never seen or heard of sex I don't know how likely they are to imitate it. As infants / pre-schoolers many will be aware that touching "that area" feels different than touching other areas, but as I said above they usually stop because they can't finish what they started.

[Ben Kenobi]

Perhaps, but that wasn't how Jesus was conceived, so... Fornication aint evil.

Jesus was also the Son of God. So unless we are God, I don't really see how this applies to us.

Who said that?

Christ said it.

I think they got that wrong, the Middle East aint exactly full of spiritually and physically well-adjusted single men observing that law.

It's also majority Muslim, so I'm not sure what your point is here.

On the contrary (and thank God for this), most people fornicate before marriage

Why is it beneficial? The west isn't really all that well-adjusted either. Fornication doesn't seem to be helping society keep running.

- some just to make sure they'll like having sex with their future spouse.

I think I can be sexually compatible with my future spouse without having sex with her.

How about slavery? Christianity could not even bring itself to call it evil, or condemn and prohibit the practice.

Quite the contrary, Christians are the only ones who condemn the practice. Look around you. Is there anyone else against trafficking people? No. Just Christians.

But fornication is evil now? There are all sorts of things in life that are detrimental, from dangerous jobs to inhaling pollutants (check out those dietary laws to protect people from disease) - are these really in the realm of "evil"?

Fornication is one of the few things that is 100 percent in our control. We choose to sleep with another person. This is different from environmental hazards. As for work, it was not always so, but that was the Curse of Adam.

Sexual orientation aint a habit

But fornication and sodomy are destructive habits.

and teaching children homosexuality is evil will not be of help to those children who are or become "gay".

It's just as harmful as teaching them to abuse drugs. If you want your kids to learn about these things, teach them yourself.

Some of them will kill themselves because Christians convinced them they are evil. What did Jesus say about leading children astray?

The noose is not on the Christians who tell them that their dignity worth and value is not centered on who they ****.

[Ben Kenobi]

Yeah, like, uh...er...hemorrhoids? No, no, straight people get those too. I suppose the danger is that the condition known as "gayness" leads to "continued gayness," which causes you to like showtunes for some godawful reason.

You really want me to list them? I'm talking about things like polyps, prolapsed rectums and anal cancer.

[Ben Kenobi]

It's no secret that the suicide rate of gay kids in jr high/high school is the highest of any demographic

It's highest in Japan. Is it Shinto religion?

A big, big reason for this is the teachings of many religions (it's evil, sinful), and another is just the homophobic nature of kids who just don't understand. If children are taught to be respectful of all people, regardless of sexual identity or gender or race, at an age before they hit puberty, it'd go a long way to reducing the suicide rates of gay teens, IMO.

What if it's self-inflicted, Asher? I don't see a connection between increased religiousity and suicide rates. Christianity is against suicide. Christianity teaches that human life has intrinsic dignity and worth and value. Christianity teaches that you can be forgiven for your sins, no matter what they are.

If I wanted to save the life of a gay teenager, the best thing would be for him to convert and receive absolution for his sins. If, as you say the condemnation of Christ drives people to suicide, remember that Christians reject suicide too.

[Dinner]

It's funny that the Catholic Church is so anti-gay given that they help priests bugger little boys and get away with it.

[Asher]

I'm assuming in one of Ben's 3 posts he tried to contradict the obvious claim that religious oppression is a major factor in gay teen suicides.

I would bother posting a hypothetical response, but I don't need to. One of my friends (more like a good acquaintance, we'd met a handful of times and went to a couple bars together) back from 2000 when I was just coming out subsequently killed himself when he came out to his (Catholic) parents and they kicked him out of the house and refused to speak with him.

A few months ago, a former classmate of my SO's who was gay killed himself and in his note he told his very Christian parents that he was sorry he could never be what they wanted of him. He wasn't out to them, but his friends knew. We knew what he meant. He had just graduated from Waterloo with a computer science degree.

But I'm sure Ben is right. Religion has nothing to do with gay teen suicide.

[MrFun]

There are religious families who have embraced and accepted their newly out gay or lesbian child.