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  • #46
    Parents don't get the benefit of food they give their kids either, but we trust they'll feed their kids in almost all cases. Ignorance is a hell of a lot less damaging than malnutrition.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
      Parents don't get the benefit of food they give their kids either, but we trust they'll feed their kids in almost all cases. Ignorance is a hell of a lot less damaging than malnutrition.
      Parents do mostly love their kids. Although if you look at american kids, you realize that a lot are not getting the right nutrition too.

      But in the past, a parent relied upon their kids to provide for them when they were old. This is no longer the case, now the government provides (and the parents own savings). Kids are very costly, and parents try to cut costs.

      We see this over and over again. With more and more people not wanting kids. With smaller family sizes among those who pay for their kids (middle class/wealthy, the poor don't pay for their kids due to the government).

      We can also see this where political choices now are chosen based on what provides benefit now even at a great cost later on (environment/deficit/etc).

      It isn't balanced, and it isn't in the interested of the government to allow parents to decide.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
        That's a retarded statement. If education was so valuable then parents would bid up salaries for private school teachers and force up pay in the public sector. If anything, taxpayers are overpaying. Taxpayer preference provides a floor, not a ceiling.
        The value of educating a child does not equal what their parents will pay. Are children with poor parents worth almost nothing? And since public schools don't charge tuition private schools are at a disadvantage. The private school teacher has to be worth thousands of dollars more for someone's child's education than the public school teacher. So unless private school teachers are worth A LOT more people won't switch to private schools and won't drive up the salaries in private schools.
        Last edited by giblets; April 14, 2010, 15:47.

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        • #49
          instead of monetarily are the most selfish people in the world.

          People who pursue the highest-paying career are to be lauded for their selflessness.
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          Personally, I think people should take the careers that make the best use of their talents. Thus, they will leave higher paying careers to those who are more capable.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
            Then they're lucky and moral.
            That's me. But you have a bigger dick
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            • #51
              What a douchebaggery opening statement.

              Most people pursue the career they are capable of. If they had the ambition of trying to move up they'd likely live a very stressful life. A few people can take that, sure enough, but most people - if they find themselves incapable - will choose not to pursue a tougher career.
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              • #52
                I pursue a career which fulfills me personally, is interesting to me personally, and pays well.

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                • #53
                  Dichotomies are boring.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                    Value is subjective, but IMO educating the next generation is very valuable. I think their pay is low because taxpayers are stingy. The low pay is only an indicator of what taxpayers think, which only shows that they are low value if you think an appeal to the masses is a valid argument.
                    Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                    That's a retarded statement. If education was so valuable then parents would bid up salaries for private school teachers and force up pay in the public sector. If anything, taxpayers are overpaying. Taxpayer preference provides a floor, not a ceiling.
                    I think what he is saying is that it has a high return on investment over the long term and is emotionally satisfying even though the direct economic impacts don't develop until decades later (when the kids grow up and start working themselves). I can easily see why many people would consider that a rewarding and necessary career which positively impacts many lives even if the immediate economic benefit is not apparent.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Asher View Post
                      I pursue a career which fulfills me personally, is interesting to me personally, and pays well.

                      yeah, but you're selfish
                      Monkey!!!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Japher View Post
                        yeah, but you're selfish
                        Only an idiot wouldn't be selfish.

                        All you have in this world is yourself, take care of it first.
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                        • #57
                          This thread was created to provide a revealing look into KH's transformation into a GOP strategist. Next up; Name change to Gekko.
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                          • #58
                            i didn't mean it as an insult
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                            • #59
                              What about Al Pacino? He went from starving artist to multi-millionaire movie star. As did many successful actors, directors, producers, writers, etc.
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                              • #60
                                I mean ****, you can do 3 commercials and make $100,000. SAG wages for major features START at $700/day, and even some off-Broadway shows pay $1500/week
                                "I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
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