I bring you...the awesomeness

[Ben Kenobi]

No one has called all Christians here "perverts", "subhuman", "pedophiles", and "psychopaths" either. Just one person has been called all these things. And actually, I believe the phrase was "potential pedophile" (it was downgraded from "probable" because it was too harsh

You have in the past been quite fond of "pedophile".

Are you suggesting that all of these terms would be appropriate to describe yourself?

[Asher]

What has Bill Whatcott specifically done to warrant the charge of 'persecution?' How does this differ from the conduct that you have demonstrated towards me here tonight?

For one, I am not dedicating my life to destroy Christianity and make it a crime punishable by jail to practice Christianity.

Bill Whatcott actively campaigns (and runs for office) on the platform of criminalizing homosexuality (locking up homosexuals). I'd say that's just a hair closer to antisemitism than calling an idiot who happens to be Catholic an idiot, wouldn't you say?

[Asher]

You have in the past been quite fond of "pedophile".

Are you suggesting that all of these terms would be appropriate to describe yourself?

What the ****. How can you wake up every morning and not decide to kill yourself?

[Asher]

Own ****ing goal, again

You have insinuated all of that.

A quote would be helpful.

No one has called all Christians here "perverts", "subhuman", "pedophiles", and "psychopaths" either. Just one person has been called all these things. And actually, I believe the phrase was "potential pedophile" (it was downgraded from "probable" because it was too harsh

Are you suggesting that all of these terms would be appropriate to describe yourself?

[Ben Kenobi]

I suppose it should not surprise me that your brain is incapable of understanding the differences between persecuting someone because they are a member of a group versus making individual observations of a specific person based on their specific actions.

So it's ok if you consistantly referred to an openly Jewish person by these same terms provided you restricted it to just the one openly Jewish person?

It's a big ****ing deal.

So big that we should be expressing joy about it on Easter?

You "follow" Christ because you are a follower. You're weak-willed. You are worthless.

Interesting.

You feel this is worth the bother?

I'm impressed Asher. I didn't think you had this in you.

There was a time, not that long ago that I thought this too. But with Christ it's different. You submit to Him in everything and he will give you everything that you need.

Yes, I realise this is 180 degrees from what we are taught everyday. But it's a much, much better way to live. Yes, I admitted a long time that I could not do it on my own. Perhaps a stronger and better person would have taken longer to come to that realisation. I am thankful that I was not one of those people because 12 years of wandering was enough for me.

You need someone else to think for you, because as this and EVERY SINGLE OTHER THREAD you have ever posted in has demonstrated, you are significantly disabled by mental retardation.

A river cannot rise higher than it's source. I can drink from the stream that flows from the source, or I can go to the source itself. The real question is not whether or not we can or cannot think for ourselves, but why we believe that we should.

There are leaders and followers in life, just like there are tops and bottoms in sex. You happen to be a bottom in life, Ben. And Christ is your top.

That's the biggest compliment you've ever given me. Thank you Asher.

[Ben Kenobi]

Bill Whatcott actively campaigns (and runs for office) on the platform of criminalizing homosexuality (locking up homosexuals). I'd say that's just a hair closer to antisemitism than calling an idiot who happens to be Catholic an idiot, wouldn't you say?

Years ago, I believed that active homosexuality and christianity could co-exist peacefully. The events of the past few years have shown me to be hopelessly naive. Arguing that Whatcott's speech ought to be criminalised is wrong for the same reasons that you are arguing you ought to be permitted to engage in sodomy.

[Asher]

So it's ok if you consistantly referred to an openly Jewish person by these same terms provided you restricted it to just the one openly Jewish person?

The remarks are not stemming from the person's religion, but the person's characteristics. The fact that you are a disgusting piece of **** has nothing to do with you being Catholic, Evangelical, Jewish, or a Scientologist.

So big that we should be expressing joy about it on Easter?

1) It was not Easter
2) The 'joy' is him finding the stupidity of a specific priest awesome -- which it is. You don't find it funny because you are every bit as stupid as the priest was.

Interesting.

You feel this is worth the bother?

I'm impressed Asher. I didn't think you had this in you.

There was a time, not that long ago that I thought this too. But with Christ it's different. You submit to Him in everything and he will give you everything that you need.

Holy ****ing hell, someone's going to be into S&M.

Yes, I realise this is 180 degrees from what we are taught everyday. But it's a much, much better way to live. Yes, I admitted a long time that I could not do it on my own. Perhaps a stronger and better person would have taken longer to come to that realisation. I am thankful that I was not one of those people because 12 years of wandering was enough for me.

You made a massive mistake and you've ****ed up the rest of your life. It's clear what's happened with you now. You've given up the concept of original thought. You don't think. Ever. You are a footsoldier without any combat skills. You are a worthless follower who contributes nothing to this world except riling up people much smarter than you with your stupidity.

A river cannot rise higher than it's source.

Yes, it can.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lock_%28water_transport%29

That's the biggest compliment you've ever given me. Thank you Asher.

The fact that you think being raped by Christ is a compliment says it all. No wonder you support child-raping priests. It's just a little bit of Christ in their ass.

[BlackCat]

Years ago, I believed that active homosexuality and christianity could co-exist peacefully.

Actually you are right - there were a chance that they could have done that, but then christians went bezerk

[Asher]

Years ago, I believed that active homosexuality and christianity could co-exist peacefully. The events of the past few years have shown me to be hopelessly naive.

Unfortunately for you, Christianity has already lost. Gay marriage has been legalized in Canada and since then, the polls show even more approval for it than before. Similarly, attendance at Churches are at record lows and more people are calling themselves atheists than ever.

Arguing that Whatcott's speech ought to be criminalised is wrong for the same reasons that you are arguing you ought to be permitted to engage in sodomy.

The problem here is you are a ****ing idiot. I've not expressed my position on the legality of Whatcott's speech at all. You once again are ****ing making up positions of other people. You are a ****ing douchebag liar.

The fact that Whatcott is specifically targeting a group of people based on one particular trait and then wanting to jail them makes it FAR more comparable to the antisemitism the church (and you) are whining about than wanting to jail pedophile priests. That's my point.

You're not arguing my point because, as usual, you know I'm ****ing right.

[Asher]

Is the semen of priests holy?

I'm surprised Ben hasn't made that justification yet. It's just a little extra blessing.

[Ben Kenobi]

1) It was not Easter

It was in Moscow.

2) The 'joy' is him finding the stupidity of a specific priest awesome -- which it is. You don't find it funny because you are every bit as stupid as the priest was.

Hence my comment that you have won a convert. You are right that he and you see eye to eye.

You made a massive mistake and you've ****ed up the rest of your life. It's clear what's happened with you now. You've given up the concept of original thought. You don't think. Ever. You are a footsoldier without any combat skills. You are a worthless follower who contributes nothing to this world except riling up people much smarter than you with your stupidity.

Is a thought original if it is identical to another persons' thought? Does it matter whether that person is aware that his thoughts have been thought already by other people? Should we encourage those who are ignorant of the previous expression to believe that their thought was original?

There are very, very few original thoughts, Asher. The Greeks built the shelves, and we have simply collated the books.

The fact that you think being raped by Christ is a compliment says it all. No wonder you support child-raping priests. It's just a little bit of Christ in their ass.

Love is not merely the sexual Asher.

[Asher]

It was in Moscow.

Hence my comment that you have won a convert. You are right that he and you see eye to eye.

Is a thought original if it is identical to another persons' thought? Does it matter whether that person is aware that his thoughts have been thought already by other people? Should we encourage those who are ignorant of the previous expression to believe that their thought was original?

There are very, very few original thoughts, Asher. The Greeks built the shelves, and we have simply collated the books.

Okay, that's it boys. Time to institutionalize Ben.

Love is not merely the sexual Asher.

I know that, but you don't. You, being a despicable human being with no redeeming qualities, have never been mutually in love with anyone. So you've fled to "Christ". Hey, your imaginary friend can never reject you, right? More power to you. Just mind your own ****ing business about it.

I love the fact that a lonely virgin who has never been in a serious relationship is lecturing me about "the sexual" and love. Amazing.

[Ben Kenobi]

Unfortunately for you, Christianity has already lost. Gay marriage has been legalized in Canada and since then, the polls show even more approval for it than before. Similarly, attendance at Churches are at record lows and more people are calling themselves atheists than ever.

Hmm.

Yet I reserve seven thousand in Israel—all whose knees have not bowed down to Baal and all whose mouths have not kissed him.

All this is meaningless, Asher.

The fact that Whatcott is specifically targeting a group of people based on one particular trait

Is it a trait Asher? Or a choice, a decision, a path? That is the question at hand.

and then wanting to jail them makes it FAR more comparable to the antisemitism the church (and you) are whining about than wanting to jail pedophile priests. That's my point.

Criminalising Whatcott's speech for criticising homosexuality is wrong. You may agree or disagree with him, but you do not have the right to stop him from saying so.

You're not arguing my point because, as usual, you know I'm ****ing right.

Rightness, wrongness.

You believe that there is a universal truth and what is true for you is true for everyone?

[BlackCat]

Actually you are right - there were a chance that they could have done that, but then christians went bezerk

Honestly, I made a mistake when writing that. While it's true that some christians went bezerk, there were also some that didn't. I feel that Nikolai is in the latter despite that he is a pretty tough christian (well, he's also curious about whiskey, so he can't be that bad ).

[Ben Kenobi]

I know that, but you don't. You, being a despicable human being with no redeeming qualities, have never been mutually in love with anyone.

I daresay you are so wise as to know all about me Asher. What do you mean when you say, "mutually in love?" Do you mean Storge? Do you mean Agape?

So you've fled to "Christ". Hey, your imaginary friend can never reject you, right? More power to you. Just mind your own ****ing business about it.

Why do you care? If it's stupid you seem awfully bothered by it.

I love the fact that a lonely virgin who has never been in a serious relationship is lecturing me about "the sexual" and love. Amazing.

Perhaps because one need not experience things in order to gain knowledge of them.