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  • #31
    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    I think having at least one Catholic bashing thread on Poly's front page through all of Holy Week constitutes persecution.
    Does this mean that gays are persecuted due to your homophobic threads?
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
      No, I say that the words you wish to express are akin to those of antisemites towards Jews.
      Well, that is where you fail - they are in no way comparable with such.
      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

      Steven Weinberg

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
        Where have I lied? Easter begins at sunset. Blame the Jews.
        You said he posted this on easter. He posted this on a Saturday well before sunset. You lied. You lied about lying, now.

        Perhaps we should come to you for knowledge of all things Christian as we know you take his words with great reverence.
        It would be too wise for you to do such a thing. I embody more of the Christian spirit than you do.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • #34
          I think Elok serves Jesus far better than does Ben.
          I am not surprised. You would only shock me by saying otherwise. I'm glad to see you and I see eye to eye on this.

          I do think that his views on the Lord have become so twisted that he is doing a disservice.
          Again, thanks. I'm glad to know I'm on the right track.
          Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
          "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
            Does this mean that gays are persecuted due to your homophobic threads?
            I was going to point this out but Ben would dismiss it outright if I did, talking about how I'm always talking about gay stuff, etc.

            But it is delicious. Ben is all about supporting people who DO openly persecute gays as a group (he name-dropped his support for Bill Whatcott a few minutes ago), but the second people are becoming critical of specific members of the Catholic church for molesting boys...that's just like the holocaust.
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Asher View Post
              Whether you get some serious Christian guidance or you see a psychiatrist, it doesn't matter to me. You are one massively flawed human being in every way imaginable, and you need to fix yourself.
              I must, unfortunately, agree . Jesus is, at his core, love. He sacrificed himself, putting himself through torture, in order to pay the price for our sins and give us the gift of eternal life. I find Ben talks far more about hatred and anger. I do pray that Ben actually finds a personal relationship with Jesus Christ instead of perverting the Lord's words and message.
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #37
                You are not a perverted servant and subhuman because you are catholic.

                You are a perverted servant and subhuman because of who YOU are. Because YOU are a pathetic excuse of a human being. Because YOU are evil. Because YOU are ignorant. Because YOU are a sociopath.
                And how is this any different than what was said many years about the Jews? I'm glad to see this thread has so thoroughly refuted Elok's mocking.

                I hope he has the eyes to see you as you truly are Asher.

                It's not persecution for non-believers in the church to express displeasure with the fact that some believers of the church like to rape children.
                But that is not all they do. You've proceeded to turn a thread that was presumably about criticising these priests only into an attack on the entire faith, and an attack on me.

                I don't mind painting a big target on myself. If I were afraid of such, I would not have become Catholic on the first place.

                People like you Asher, made me what I am today. Had you been content to confine your comments and to praise the Church on occasion, I'd probably still be an evangelical. But people like yourself caused me to reconsider why.

                You think I don't notice the comments on here by others, who are proud at converting us and destroying our faith? It's been remarked on here by others previous.

                No one group is persecuted. Catholics who go to church are not being persecuted. Pedophile priests and the organizational structure who covered them up and enabled them to reoffend are.
                Then why the need for new threads every day on this topic?

                That's because I don't give a **** one way or another. Why would you assume my silence is anti-semitism? God, you're a tool.
                No, I simply said, I've not ever seen you defend Israel. Perhaps I should have presumed that you go to temple every Saturday but I would wager my first assumption is nearer to the mark.

                They are vile accusations because you are a vile human. I am very serious when I say you are a sociopath, psychopath, and in need of serious help. Whether you get some serious Christian guidance or you see a psychiatrist, it doesn't matter to me. You are one massively flawed human being in every way imaginable, and you need to fix yourself.
                Indeed. Which is why I follow Christ. If I were perfect in everyway like yourself, I'd worship me.
                Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                  What, that you have any love for Christians in you? I should think you would find it offensive to tell lies to others about you.
                  Don't bother to read anything you want into what I write. You don't say anything sensible, and that is what I comment.
                  With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                  Steven Weinberg

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                  • #39
                    Does this mean that gays are persecuted due to your homophobic threads?
                    Do people call the gay posters here "perverts", "subhuman", "pedophiles", and "psychopaths?" and still retain posting privileges?
                    Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                    "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                    2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                      Do people call the gay posters here "perverts", "subhuman", "pedophiles", and "psychopaths?"
                      You have insinuated all of that.
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                        And how is this any different than what was said many years about the Jews?
                        I suppose it should not surprise me that your brain is incapable of understanding the differences between persecuting someone because they are a member of a group versus making individual observations of a specific person based on their specific actions.

                        This is because you are stupid.

                        Note that this comment is not persecuting Catholics, it's calling you stupid because you happen to be a massive tool.

                        People like you Asher, made me what I am today. Had you been content to confine your comments and to praise the Church on occasion, I'd probably still be an evangelical. But people like yourself caused me to reconsider why.
                        Oh, jesus, this made my day.

                        Then why the need for new threads every day on this topic?
                        It's a big ****ing deal.

                        No, I simply said, I've not ever seen you defend Israel. Perhaps I should have presumed that you go to temple every Saturday but I would wager my first assumption is nearer to the mark.
                        I don't defend it, but I don't attack it either. It's not my place to say.

                        Indeed. Which is why I follow Christ. If I were perfect in everyway like yourself, I'd worship me.
                        You "follow" Christ because you are a follower. You're weak-willed. You are worthless. You need someone else to think for you, because as this and EVERY SINGLE OTHER THREAD you have ever posted in has demonstrated, you are significantly disabled by mental retardation.

                        There are leaders and followers in life, just like there are tops and bottoms in sex. You happen to be a bottom in life, Ben. And Christ is your top.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #42
                          But it is delicious. Ben is all about supporting people who DO openly persecute gays as a group (he name-dropped his support for Bill Whatcott a few minutes ago), but the second people are becoming critical of specific members of the Catholic church for molesting boys...that's just like the holocaust
                          What has Bill Whatcott specifically done to warrant the charge of 'persecution?' How does this differ from the conduct that you have demonstrated towards me here tonight?
                          Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                          "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                          2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                            Do people call the gay posters here "perverts", "subhuman", "pedophiles", and "psychopaths?" and still retain posting privileges?
                            No one has called all Christians here "perverts", "subhuman", "pedophiles", and "psychopaths" either. Just one person has been called all these things. And actually, I believe the phrase was "potential pedophile" (it was downgraded from "probable" because it was too harsh )
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #44
                              You have insinuated all of that.
                              A quote would be helpful.
                              Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                              "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                              2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                                I must, unfortunately, agree . Jesus is, at his core, love. He sacrificed himself, putting himself through torture, in order to pay the price for our sins and give us the gift of eternal life.
                                I really don't object to this, but will you please do an experiment for me ? Go down to a corner near you and start preaching this in another name than christ
                                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                                Steven Weinberg

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