Children of gay parents also targets of discrimination.

[Ben Kenobi]

States can change their own laws to recognize whatever they want.

Yes, and the corollary is that other states are not required to recognise their laws. Look at this from the other side. If massachusetts were required to have the same laws as other states, they never would have been permitted to change their law.

It's a double edged sword. Yes, states are free to have their own laws, but they are not free to force their laws on the other states.

The standard procedure is to recognize marriages/unions from other jurisdictions unless there is legislation specifically to the contrary (eg, State A gay-marries Ben and Ned, Ben and Ned move to Arkansas which has legislation banning gay marriage, so their marriage is not recognized in Arkansas).

Which is exactly the case in Louisiana. So, your point here is that Massachusetts laws should take precedence over Louisiana laws in LA.

[Asher]

Not the case wrt to Massachusetts, although this is a common tactic.

What the **** are you talking about?

[Ben Kenobi]

You asserted that no one can be a victim if they have an agenda backing them. That applies to anyone and everyone regardless of what the US constitution says.

You are not a victim if you move to another state to target their law. You are targetting the state, not the other way around.

Someone who is practicing their faith, that's different. If the state changes their law to prevent them from practicing then they run afoul of the constitutional guarantees wrt religious freedoms.

For instance, a Christian who is killed going door-to-door preaching is nota victim as he has an agenda backing him. That's your logic.

He is not a victim of religious persecution, no. But he is still a victim of homocide.

In this case, they are not a victim of anything at all. They are attempting to overturn a law that they don't like. How are they negatively affected and persecuted by the law as it stands in LA?

[Asher]

Yes, and the corollary is that other states are not required to recognise their laws. Look at this from the other side. If massachusetts were required to have the same laws as other states, they never would have been permitted to change their law.

It's a double edged sword. Yes, states are free to have their own laws, but they are not free to force their laws on the other states.

I've never ****ing said a ****ing thing about ****ing forcing other ****ing states to do any ****ing thing you ****ing douchebag.

Which is exactly the case in Louisiana. So, your point here is that Massachusetts laws should take precedence over Louisiana laws in LA.

I've never ****ing said a ****ing thing about Massachusetts laws or ****ing Louisiana laws you ****ing douchebag.

I was speaking what is the general case in US law unless there are laws otherwise. That's it.

Stop ****ing making **** up.

[Asher]

He is not a victim of religious persecution, no. But he is still a victim of homocide.

He remains a victim. Just like the gay men whose unions aren't recognized by some states are victims of religious bigotry.

Thank you for admitting you were wrong. First time ever.

[Ben Kenobi]

I've never ****ing said a ****ing thing about ****ing forcing other ****ing states to do any ****ing thing you ****ing douchebag.

Truth's a ***** innit.

[Asher]

Truth's a ***** innit.

I've no ****ing idea what you are talking about. Once again you've got some ****ing dialog in your head going on that doesn't correspond to a single ****ing word said in this thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

[Ben Kenobi]

He remains a victim. Just like the gay men whose unions aren't recognized by some states are victims of religious bigotry.

Which religion do they practice?

Is it religious bigotry that you aren't allowed to have multiple wives?

[Asher]

If you don't comprehend my statement, no explanation will make you smart enough to ever understand.

[Boris Godunov]

I don't see why Louisiana should be forced to recognise other state laws. This is just the standard procedure. Gay people move to states in order to force them to change their laws. You aren't a 'victim' if you've got an agenda backing you.

Huh?

The family lives in Florida now. On the day the Court of Appeals ruled in their favor, they were enrolling their son in pre-school where they were asked to provide a birth certificate. They need the State of Louisiana to issue it because that is where their son was born.

It is the exact opposite of the scenario you (stupidly) alledge. Do you have to get everything wrong in your life?

[MrFun]

There are plenty, dating back to the 19th century. They generally rest on the public policy exception to the Full Faith and Credit Clause.

Would these precedents allow a politician to use his own personal opinion on a social issue as superior to a court's ruling?

[Ben Kenobi]

It is the exact opposite of the scenario you (stupidly) alledge. Do you have to get everything wrong in your life?

This makes the situation even sillier. Why can't they simply ask for the birth certificate to be issued?

[MrFun]

Because Louisiana Attorney General Buddy Caldwell is defying his state's court ruling, and refusing to allow that to happen, BK.


PS: Did you ****ing read the damn article?

[Solomwi]

Would these precedents allow a politician to use his own personal opinion on a social issue as superior to a court's ruling?

Not what's happening here. We don't really have any idea where Caldwell stands on the issue personally, at least not from your article or the ones I had to google to get a straightforward summary of the facts. But that's beside the point that your very general question has a non-zero answer.

[MrFun]

I guess you missed this part when you read the article, Solomwi, because it does show where Caldwell stands:

But Louisiana Attorney General Buddy Caldwell does not think that two gay men should be fathers.