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  • #46


    According to this, roughly 50 percent of the private economic output in the US comes from firms of 10 or fewer, which is about 25 percent of the whole.

    Small firms employed about 51 percent of the private sector economy in 1998,
    a slight decline from 55 percent in 1990. This share changed less than 1 percent
    in any one year over the 1990–1998 period.
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    • #47
      Thankfully Ben will never be in a position to hire anybody, so this issue will never arise.
      And you'd think wrongly. I've recommended people all the time to the higher ups, and have generally been pretty good at finding good folks.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
        http://www.sba.gov/advo/research/sb_econ2001.pdf

        According to this, roughly 50 percent of the private economic output in the US comes from firms of 10 or fewer, which is about 25 percent of the whole.
        Liar. From page 46 of your PDF (81 of the report):

        Small Business Share of Private, Nonfarm Gross Domestic Product by Joel Popkin and Company (Office of Advocacy funded study) found small businesses (fewer
        than 500 employees
        ) created 51 percent of the total nonfarm private output in 1992.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post
          They don't appear to have read the Bible or something...

          Women like Mary were suppose to be killed too, they were going to stone her.

          JM
          That's an assumption many Christians make. The name of the woman who was to be stoned for adultery was never given. Only later did Christians decide it was Mary of Magdala.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #50
            Liar. From page 46 of your PDF (81 of the report):
            Didn't look that far. Thanks.

            I found this as well.

            In fact, of the nearly 26 million business firms in the United States, 97.5 percent employ fewer than 20 employees
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Ramo View Post
              Secondly, rah's claim was discrimination was not permitted. This is false.




              Ben. What fraction of the economy do you think is composed of small businesses with less than 15 employees?


              says businesses with < 20 employees had total payroll of 660 bill in 2004, compared to a total private payroll of 4.3 trill

              As for gov't, in 2004 it looks like feds had ~150 bill annual payroll, states had ~180 bill and locals had ~480 bill (total ~800 bill)

              so < 20 firms (not including non-payroll firms i.e. owner-operator, which are obviously not affected by discrimination statutes) had about 660/5100 = 13% of US payroll

              EDIT: a better estimator of <15 would be subtract out half of the 10-19 firms' payrolls, which would bring us to ~530/5100 = 10.4% or so
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              • #52
                Interesting. Your google-fu is stronger then mine.

                Fits the usual principle of 90-10.

                10 percent of the workers are in 90 percent of the businesses, and 90 percent of the workers are in the 10 percent of the businesses.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                  You know what I mean, rah, and quit jumping around.

                  'Fit' as in personality. Will this person 'fit in' with the other employees? Do they play well with others?
                  I didn't jump around you idiot. Didn't you even bother to read the rest of that post..

                  Yes 'fit' as in abilities/temperment, not race, sex, gender and religion you bigot.

                  Yes, you can still chose not to hire ass-holes or bigots. They're not included in the list so Fortunately I could legally deny you employment.
                  I think temperment and not being an ******* covers how well you play with others.

                  What an absolute moron.
                  It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by chequita guevara View Post
                    That's an assumption many Christians make. The name of the woman who was to be stoned for adultery was never given. Only later did Christians decide it was Mary of Magdala.
                    I know.

                    I was giving a quick story which is better with names, everyone knew what I was talking about.

                    I could have said Jesus and the Adulterous Woman... but that doesn't sound as nice.

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                    • #55
                      It is actually really bad that it doesn't apply to smaller firms, although I think that if anyone took a case to the supreme court they could probably get that added, apparently most states have additional legislation to apply the same requirements to all firms.

                      This stuff isn't hard to find.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post
                        II could have said Jesus and the Adulterous Woman... but that doesn't sound as nice.
                        It's a good name for a band
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                          http://www.census.gov/epcd/www/smallbus.html

                          says businesses with < 20 employees had total payroll of 660 bill in 2004, compared to a total private payroll of 4.3 trill

                          As for gov't, in 2004 it looks like feds had ~150 bill annual payroll, states had ~180 bill and locals had ~480 bill (total ~800 bill)

                          so < 20 firms (not including non-payroll firms i.e. owner-operator, which are obviously not affected by discrimination statutes) had about 660/5100 = 13% of US payroll

                          EDIT: a better estimator of <15 would be subtract out half of the 10-19 firms' payrolls, which would bring us to ~530/5100 = 10.4% or so
                          Linear estimate

                          With the resolution of the census data, you can get a lot more accurate than that.
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                          • #58
                            I think temperment and not being an ******* covers how well you play with others.
                            This time I got your DanS.

                            Yes 'fit' as in abilities, not race, sex, gender and religion you bigot.
                            What you said, which I quoted in post number 41.

                            Later, you DanSed it to add 'temperment', after I called you out.

                            I can read just fine rah. Want to consider revising your statement?
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by MikeH
                              It is actually really bad that it doesn't apply to smaller firms, although I think that if anyone took a case to the supreme court they could probably get that added
                              Er.. unlikely. Title VII is statutory (albeit, arising under authority from the 14th Amendment). SCOTUS wouldn't be able to increase the statute just because they wanted to.
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by MikeH View Post
                                It is actually really bad that it doesn't apply to smaller firms
                                Politicians in the US are in love with small business (or at least they like to claim to be) despite some evidence that truly small businesses are significantly less productive than larger businesses.

                                Many regulations specifically exempt small businesses.
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