10 (or more) Things I hate About You

[Dinner]

Especially when the supposed DanS was already quoted in Ben's original reply.

That's what makes it so perfect.

[Ben Kenobi]

Time for you to step up and be a man.

You'd prefer that I lie?

I've given you the benefit of the doubt as well. There were quite a few posts and edits all at once on both parts.

[KrazyHorse]

For somebody as deeply religious as Ben is supposed to be he lacks all hint of personal integrity.

[Ben Kenobi]

Who was it who claimed that editing a post changed all subsequent posts which quoted the original post?

Wasn't me. I usually read first, reply to something else, then go back to the original post and post on what I read first, rather then on what's quoted.

Rarely do I bother reading what's in the quotes hash.

[Ben Kenobi]

For somebody as deeply religious as Ben is supposed to be he lacks all hint of personal integrity.

"Who do you believe, me or your lying eyes?"

[Ben Kenobi]

Those of you who are Americans and who read Ben's posts might think that he's simply uninformed or ignorant of American political reality (or American reality in general) due to his Canadianness. However, those of us who are Canadian know that Ben is just as delusional when it comes to Canadian reality. His ignorance transcends all borders. It simply is.

Oddly enough, on other forums my posts are usually considered quite cogent. It never ceases to amuse me how posters that oppose the 'common knowledge' of Apolyton are considered deluded or ignorant, because we simply could not be in our right mind and believe what we do.

You should be asking yourself, why, if Ben is delusional, is he assuming I am susceptible to reason?

[KrazyHorse]

3 posts? Touched a nerve, did I?

[Dinner]

Ben, people aren't making fun of you because you're espousing a nontraditional idea. People are making fun of you because you've been proven wrong over and over again yet you continue to say stupid things; things which can easily be proven wrong.

[Ben Kenobi]

Spending millions of dollars preventing it? According to who? Show me where Obama has spent millions of dollars in (supposedly) preventing the release of his (already released) birth cerfificate.

Guy, there you go.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=95772

President Obama may be using campaign funds to stomp out eligibility lawsuits brought by Americans, as his campaign has paid more than $1 million to his top lawyer since the election.

According to Federal Election Commission records, Obama For America paid $688,316.42 to international law firm Perkins Coie between January and March 2009.

The campaign also compensated Perkins Coie for legal services between Oct. 16, 2008 and Dec. 31, 2008 – to the tune of $378,375.52.

Robert Bauer of Perkins Coie – top lawyer for Obama, Obama's presidential campaign, the Democratic National Committee and Obama's Organizing for America – is the same Washington, D.C., lawyer defending President Obama in lawsuits challenging his eligibility to be president.

As WND reported earlier, Bauer sent a letter to plaintiff Gregory Hollister, a retired Air Force colonel, of Hollister v. Soetoro, threatening sanctions if he doesn't withdraw his appeal of the eligibility case that earlier was tossed by a district judge because the issue already had been "twittered."

Bauer's warning was dated April 3 and delivered via letter to the plaintiff's attorney, John D. Hemenway. It is not the first such warning issued. Lawyers trying to kill a similar California lawsuit filed on behalf of Ambassador Alan Keyes also said they would seek sanctions against the plaintiff's attorneys in that case unless they left the issue of the president's eligibility alone.

"For the reasons stated in Judge Robertson's ruling, the suit is frivolous and should not be pursued," Bauer's letter warned. "Should you decline to withdraw this frivolous appeal, please be informed that we intend to pursue sanctions, including costs, expenses and attorneys' fees, pursuant to Federal Rule of Appellate Procedure 38 and D.C. Circuit Rule 38."

Bauer also represented Obama and the DNC in Philip Berg's eligibility lawsuit and various other legal challenges. He and the White House have not responded to WND's request for comment.

Perkins Coie serves high-profile clients such as Microsoft, Amazon and Starbucks. In 2006, the firm also represented Salim Ahmed Hamdan, Osama bin Laden's alleged bodyguard and driver.

The FEC allows elected officials to use campaign funds to pay legal fees only if the action/investigations arise as a result of their tenure in office or campaigns, according to Politico.

The FEC report also reveals Obama For America has spent nearly $9.5 million in the first three months of this year – of which $6,365 in legal fees paid by Obama For America also went to Oldaker, Biden & Belair, a firm founded by Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden.

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben, people aren't making fun of you because you're espousing a nontraditional idea. People are making fun of you because you've been proven wrong over and over again yet you continue to say stupid things; things which can easily be proven wrong.

Which is why I've been compared with Ned?

You've given me an idea for an experiment.

[Dinner]

Not more World Nut Daily nonsense.

Seriously, that organization has been caught lying and deliberately printing falsehoods so many times it is nothing more then a tabloid. A politically motivated tabloid which makes no bones about the fact that they're a mouth piece for the Republican Party. It is not creditable at all.

That said, are you honestly dense enough to claim that all of the money Obama has spent on law firms and campaign advisors has some how been spent only to hide that he's a secret Muslim/foreigner/hater of white people (circle which ever right wing claim you like)?

[Ben Kenobi]

Seriously, that organization has been caught lying and deliberately printing falsehoods so many times it is nothing more then a tabloid. A politically motivated tabloid which makes no bones about the fact that they're a mouth piece for the Republican Party. It is not creditable at all.

As opposed to the NY Times who have been caught lying and deliberately printing falsehoods, and makes no bones about the fact that they are a mouthpiece for the Democrats?

[Guynemer]

Ben, I swear to you on my honor, that I never edited that post. You are wrong. I am giving you one last opportunity to admit that you are wrong, that you wrongly accused me of doing something I did not do.

If you can not honestly own up to making a mistake, I've nothing more to say to you.

[KrazyHorse]

Ignore him. Join us.

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben, I swear to you on my honor, that I never edited that post.

I believe you, Guynemer. You are a honourable man. I haven't accused you of lying or making **** up. I don't believe this is a matter to question your honour at all.

I am swearing that's what I saw Guynemer. I know you are a doctor and you know this issue frontways and backwards. The post I made wasn't even addressed to you. That's why I said I wasn't meaning to address you in the other post.

I swear I did not see the part where you said you never saw the form before. That's why I kept making posts before going back to check the post again.

I am giving you one last opportunity to admit that you are wrong.

Guynemer, you are asking me to deny what I saw. I know what I saw. I don't see how me lying and saying otherwise is going to solve this issue.

If you want to put me on ignore, that's fine. If you want to cast aspersions on my honour, that's fine, but please don't think I am casting aspersions on yours.