Support for same sex marriage grows... ever stronger

[Asher]

No, they don't. I know plenty of people including yourself who've swung both ways.

How can you say sexuality is fluid if you, yourself, are a counterexample?

And my sexuality was never fluid. Ever. This is a complicated matter that I've tried to explain to you before, but you are mentally incapable of comprehending it.

[Ben Kenobi]

THis isn't about alcholics and it isn't about your hearing impairment either. They're allowed to marry and so are you, so stop any comparisions.

And so is a gay man. I don't see why the comparison is different.

Its about gays made by god that you've been told to respect because he made them that way.

It's about people being made in the image of God. If your sexuality defines you, then there is something wrong going on. People are not defined by what they do, they are people. This is why they deserve dignity and respect, as persons, not as 'gays'.

I'm a much better christian to you because I'm actually following gods word and respecting them.

Hmm, I don't think I've ever said I was a better Christian then anyone here. Perhaps you might want to think about your phrasing some.

[Ben Kenobi]

How can you say sexuality is fluid if you, yourself, are a counterexample?

The same way in which all substances are soluble to some degree.

And my sexuality was never fluid. Ever. This is a complicated matter that I've tried to explain to you before, but you are mentally incapable of comprehending it.

De Nile ain't a river in Egypt.

[Ben Kenobi]

Do you think I'm cute, Ben?

Hmm.

Somewhat less then Rosie O'Donnell, but somewhat more then Michael Jackson.

[Asher]

The same way in which all substances are soluble to some degree.

So you are gay to some degree.

Also, denial is a huge part of it.

[rah]

And so is a gay man. I don't see why the comparison is different.
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so you finally agree that gay men should be allowed to be married. About time.

[Lorizael]

On the medical consequences, you'd have to ask folks like Doc Strangelove. I don't claim to be an expert on the topic, but neither then are the fanboys experts either. I have done some work with demography and social sciences, so I do have a bit more then most folks.

So you believe that you correct a blind spot that all of Apolyton possesses because you "have done some work with demography and social sciences?" No, that doesn't sound ridiculous at all.

Oh, so I'm not allowed to argue a position that I believe is more right then another position which I believe is more wrong?

When you compromise your principles, you lose the moral high ground. You either need to craft a new stance that does not necessitate compromising your principles, or you need to stop talking about this particular issue.

How are my beliefs inconsistant?

The only consistency you display is in your belief that the word consistent has an 'a' in it.

Your position is inconsistent because you make the argument that gay marriage should not be allowed because the state shouldn't support gay marriage, but that is not your belief. You believe that the state should not support marriage at all.

You cannot make an argument against gay marriage specifically using that logic. You can only argue against state-supported marriage. You need other arguments if you wish to argue against gay marriage.

[Ben Kenobi]

So you believe that you correct a blind spot that all of Apolyton possesses

No, I'm not a theologian. I'm a historian.

When you compromise your principles, you lose the moral high ground. You either need to craft a new stance that does not necessitate compromising your principles, or you need to stop talking about this particular issue.

You don't really care about 'compromising' principles. Silly argument to make here. I've said sometimes I argue positions which aren't 100 percent my ideals because they are more right then the alternative proposed. I fail to see how that is compromising my principles.

Your position is inconsistent because you make the argument that gay marriage should not be allowed because the state shouldn't support gay marriage, but that is not your belief. You believe that the state should not support marriage at all.

The two are congruent with one another. Gay marriage is a subset of marriage. If I oppose all state support for marriage, then opposing gay marriage follows. Stating, I oppose state support for gay marriage is entirely correct.

You cannot make an argument against gay marriage specifically using that logic.

That is true, which is when asked I clarify my position, as I have.

[Ben Kenobi]

so you finally agree that gay men should be allowed to be married. About time.

So I have to parse that out pedantically every time?

Gay men can get married to whatever woman will have them. Same right I have.

[Asher]

So I have to parse that out pedantically every time?

Gay men can get married to whatever woman will have them. Same right I have.

This quote, which you trot out dozens of times per year, demonstrates why you do not have any intellectual capability and are also a heartless *******.

[rah]

So I have to parse that out pedantically every time?

Gay men can get married to whatever woman will have them. Same right I have.

actually according to the cannons you posted they can't.

2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.

Marriages are only legal in the church if they're consumated. But your cannon calls for them to be chaste, so they can't marry women even. Do you even read the stuff you post. Silly me, I know you don't.

[Kuciwalker]

canon

[Asher]

The imagery is less exciting.

[MrFun]

Now I know exactly why Che and others do not want others to quote BK.

[Ben Kenobi]

Marriages are only legal in the church if they're consumated. But your cannon calls for them to be chaste, so they can't marry women even.

That's not what chastity means. Chastity! = celibacy. Chastity means refraining from sexual congress outside of the legitimate bonds of marriage.