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  • Originally posted by Asher View Post
    As we've seen in the past month, that is entirely reasonable...
    Good point, I'm afraid to say.
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    • Does his anger escalate to deleting posts, cyber stalking and death threats in the movie?
      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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      • Well, he certainly ****ed the, er, pandas...
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        • Effects etc - 9/10

          Plot etc - 3/10

          Overall - 6/10
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          • 2>6>8>3>1>11>4>7>10>9>5

            I actually like 2/6/8; 3/1 are passably OK; 11 great eye candy/**** **** plot; 4 stupid time travel on Earth ****, funny in places; 7>10>9>5 Basically **** and most likely interchangeable - I think this is my order from what I can remember, but then I have been trying my best to forget!
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            • 8 is gay. Time travel + the Borg + TNG crew = teh suck.
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              • My list is:

                2>6>3=4>1>5

                I've never been overly fond of the TNG movies. Either they were a mess (7, 10), forgettable (9) or too much action (8, although still enjoyable).

                I havent seen 3 in ages, so I'm not sure it's up to the level of 4.

                While I think the new movie is a very fun action movie, I don't think it's a great Star Trek movie. this spoiler-full review tends to share my views, though I liked Kirk more and the new Spock less.
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                • I like the Borg enough to ignore the time travel aspect. Not to mention that despite the time travel and TNG crew - the rest of the STMs are worse IMO - including the new one!
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                  • The Borg are gay. They were cool for like one episode and then became progressively gayer over their next 60 appearances...
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                    • Originally posted by Edan View Post

                      this spoiler-full review tends to share my views...
                      Picks up most of my major beefs, plus a whole bunch I hadn't even begun to think about - because there are so many!

                      Though there is one even he hasn't mentioned:

                      Spoiler:
                      The first ship, small and old as it is, seems to have at least a DOZEN shuttles when it looks like it can only fit several!!? Apparently these save 800 crew members when your average shuttle only had comfortable room for less than a dozen people!?!?! Seriously - WTF!!?


                      And that one is mere nitpicking compared to some of the most glaringly bad plot ****-ups detailed in the article about...

                      This ST is basically just a dumb actioner - beautifully crafted - but as dumb as a lobotomised panda all the same...

                      HOWEVER...

                      It is STILL better than the last Indie movie...!
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                      • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
                        The Borg are gay. They were cool for like one episode and then became progressively gayer over their next 60 appearances...
                        They didn't appear in that many episodes - though I admit they rapidly got more unintentionally comedy the more they were rolled out. They were still cool for when First Contact came out.
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                        • They didn't appear in that many episodes


                          I'm pretty sure they appeared in a great many episodes of Voyager, although I didn't watch that show and can't say for sure.
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                          • Yeah, I guess, if you include 7 of 9...

                            Dunno, I don't remember many - but then I didn't care much for Voyager either...
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                            • From http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Borg they appeared in about 30 episodes, more than two thirds of which were in Voyager, though some of those were flashbacks, cameos, etc, rather than episodes where they were featured prominently.

                              For the most part, they were so good in Best of Both Worlds that all future stories were bound to disappoint, even if they had been good (a few were, here and there, but not enough to justify so many episode)

                              And yeah, I didn't care much for Voyager either.
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                              • Video version of that tor.com review...


                                Trekkies Bash New Star Trek Film As 'Fun, Watchable'
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