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  • What about this?

    It doesn't look as if the inner seawall, over the stairs, has a waiver yet. So, it should be easy to place the 1-meter wall at the waver edge there. Right?

    The long stretch between the house and the stream-side wall would just need to be raised up a "step" in order to relocate the 1-meter wall. Such a move would result in a lip along the bottom of the inside of the wall there. I could live with that.

    That only leaves the small area at the top of the stairs by the house. I can't really see what you've been doing there. You say you wiuykd need to add another step to the stairs. I'd rather not do that. What's going on in that area? Can we just leave this area unchanged without it clashing with the look of the rest of that side of the property?

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    • Day and a half internet outage. Power outage 1 day. Why? Because they're stinging globe internet wire all over the place, multiple crews! It could go out again any moment so I'm posting this quick, pics coming. Your plan is their plan btw. Zkrib, you should be a mason. Only thing, no inside 'lip' that I can think of.
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      • Pics are loading slow...

        The laborers are digging out the far side getting ready for the facing/waver forms.

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        • I took pics of this end because I have another question but I'll get to that in a sec. No waver needed here Sho says. They will build the one meter wall on top of the facing.

          My question is this. If you build the doors on top of the steps anyone standing there can see your entire yard. So do you want a two meter wall? It would take out your view but if you don't build the door at even 1/3rd of the way down the steps then you'll need it.

          Just to revisit dealt with subjects this is one of those things you'll regret later so here we are.

          You are concerned that a wall with no backing will break. So consider a post, not a wall, not half way down the steps but not even 1/3rd of the way. That's allot of backing for that post, and very high up on the steps. We do a post on both sides, string a piece of wood between and hang a very lightweight bamboo wall/door there that can be lifted up and carried away any time you want, such as a party or a typhoon.

          So you have 3 choices.

          1) A one meter wall and door at the top and kids yelling 'Hey Joe!' or drunks asking money for cigs or booze. All have happened on my steps, that's why we're doing a door in the future, one they can't see over. Hasn't happened in a while though. Thing is they don't really understand property rights so when you ask them to leave it can be a problem. Even filipinos build walls for this reason.

          2) A door at the top and a 2 meter wall where needed.

          3) A door 1/3 of the way down as I described, with a one meter wall. You can see over, they can't.

          Sorry to bug you about the same thing but maybe I didn't communicate well last time.

          Anyway, they're ready to slant this wall back towards the boundry marker. Still want that?

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          • More pics related to that question. Some of these might help you with the top of the stairs. Sunday today so no work but if it gets hot like yesterday we'll head for the beach. If not I'll be going tomorrow to the jobsite to pass on your instructions and make sure they understand. Also then I'll snap more pics around the top of the stairs.





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            • I suggest we go one additional foot along the wall's current path in order to set metal in it to tie into the facing metal. After that we angle back towards the marker which can be seen next to the tree on the left.

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                • As June gets closer the water gets a bit higher. Here at high tide the wave are actually hitting your wall Zkrib. That's something I hadn't seen before. The water had made it but not really the waves.



                  Here is Sho at the meeting I called to open the subject of how best to move the wall to the end of the waver.

                  Sho's exact words were "No problem about that." Great guy, great mason.



                  The guy just behind him to the right is Ricky, the foremost mason among the three brothers who work professionally. He finished another job and joined us recently. They both think that the additional step is the strongest way to do it.


                  Sho, Ricky and Elmer all got involved in the lively discussion, almost everyone did. Its a good plan.



                  Last edited by Lancer; April 25, 2009, 21:47.
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                  • We can do the far side only and have a lip anywhere away from the wall just by grading it that way.

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                      • Zkrib, Rigo is your best, most dedicated worker.

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                        • Why does Sho believe no waver is needed on the inner seawall? He's probably right -- I just want to know.

                          Lots to like in your last few posts:

                          I like your idea about continuing on for another foot along the wall's current path in order to set metal in it to tie into the facing metal, and, then angling back towards the marker. And yes, I still do think we should do the angled wall.

                          I like your idea of a door 1/3 of the way down between two posts, with a one meter wall up above. It solves my concern about the sea breaking down the unsupported wall.

                          With all the stinging globe internet wire all over the place, does some of it look as if it's heading for Garcia-Hernandez??

                          I am impressed by Sho's calling of a meeting to discuss the problem of moving the wall. A lesser man would try to solve it all by himself. Sho has enough convidence that he can throw the floor open to discussion and listen to the suggestions of others. That's the best way I know to come up with the best solution to a problem.

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                          • I'm sure Sho believes that with the stairs there the ocean won't get to the back wall in force.

                            I called the meeting. Sho is still a great guy but he sometimes tells me what I want to hear. At a meeting that is less likely.

                            Yes! The wire is being strung through Garcia.

                            Well now our internet is down so we're at Theresa's place cuz she has. We're getting in touch with the isp today.

                            We're heading for the beach to take pics at the top of the stairs and instruct the guys regarding the far end meter wall but holding off the near end.
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                            • Originally posted by Lancer View Post
                              We can do the far side only and have a lip anywhere away from the wall just by grading it that way.
                              Just to be clear. I don't want a lip. It's just that I thought by raising the base of the wall to put in more metal, a lip was unavoidable.

                              The Internet coming to Garcia-Hernandez!

                              Edit: Lancer, check your PMs!
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                              • If you don't want a lip you have 2 choices. Remember that the lip only occurs vs the non raised section of wall and only if we don't raise the whole wall. We fill in behind the lip with dirt or gravel just like my place. At my place you don't stepup onto the waver. We raise it 8" you just put more stuff behind, that's all.

                                1) We raise the wall 8" inside and out. Then we just grade the property 8" higher. No lip, no incline, no nothing. Your house stands 8" higher.

                                2) We just raise the right side and grade out the 8" over several meters. This means there would be a slight incline, hardly noticable as you walk to the far side.
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