Will Supreme Court take case on Obama's citizenship?

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by TCO
Darius: Biden would succeed. It wojuld be similar to a death or incapacitation or resignation. Provided Obama already serving. Obama would not be able to stop the enforcement of sucvh a ruling. The popular opinion would not sustain him and the military would have more allegiance to the Constitution than the man.

Obama would have to resign or be impeached and voted from office. There's no other mechanism for removing a sitting president.

We'd probably be looking at a massive Constitutional crisis, for sure.

[Ben Kenobi]

Not if it comes before the vote of the electoral college.

The electoral college would no longer be bound to vote for Obama (who would be ineligible), nor could they vote for Biden (as he's on as VICE president), on the ballots.

Their choices would be anyone else who is eligible on the ballot, ie McCain.

[TCO]

He would resign, be impeached or possibly be declared non-seving by th USSC. It would be no problem to get him out of there.

[Darius871]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Obama would have to resign or be impeached and voted from office. There's no other mechanism for removing a sitting president.

We'd probably be looking at a massive Constitutional crisis, for sure.

Originally posted by TCO
He would resign, be impeached or possibly be declared non-seving by th USSC. It would be no problem to get him out of there.

But who's to say that such a Democratic-dominated House - many of whom owe their seats to Obama's coattails - would pass an impeachment for the Senate to try? More importantly, the impeachment clause only refers to high crimes and misdemeanors, whereas this would only be an archaic technicality caused by what he could claim was inadvertent mishandling of paperwork in his youth. If he doesn't resign, and they don't impeach, nothing happens, unless a military contingent - which technically reports only to the CinC, not the judiciary - literally strolls into the Oval Office and puts him under arrest. This could only be called a coup d'etat, and even though it would have constitutional backing, there would be no shortage of open riots in the streets, if not outright revolts. What a mess.

[TCO]

military officers make an oath to the Constitution, not to the President. If USSC said he was ineligbile, he would have his bags packed and be escorted out the door. Also, public opinion (including Democrat congresscritters) would be against him. He would have no support.

[Darius871]

Originally posted by TCO
military officers make an oath to the Constitution, not to the President. If USSC said he was ineligbile, he would have his bags packed and be escorted out the door.

Not in dispute. Not only are they constitutionally bound, but also over 2/3 of the military voted against the guy, so doing their duty wouldn't split the ranks anyway.

Originally posted by TCO
Also, public opinion (including Democrat congresscritters) would be against him. He would have no support.

You have far too much faith in the American school system's ability to instill an appreciation of a basic Civics course, the American student's inclination to pay attention to it, and the American citizen's ability to remember it. There's no shortage of ignorant twits that would view it as nothing more than a coup d'etat by a military junta, and overreact in kind. Especially if he gives one of those speeches people seem to like so much.

Not to say that their reaction would "win" anything exactly, since they'd be up against the bulk of the military, but it'd be very messy. Of course, that's why he'd probably just resign to begin with.

[Darius871]

LOL, this was pretty entertaining:

[Docfeelgood]

Any Constitutional lawyers here?

I read somewhere? that the next in line (should this come true) would be the speaker of the house.

Yep this would be better than the OJ trial.

[Dr Strangelove]

Actually I don't think that parents can irrevocably renounce American citizenship for their children. I'm fairly certain that a child born to US citizens outside the US, or a child born outside the US to parents of mixed nationality, one being American, the other not, may choose his nationality at 21 years of age. For that matter, I'm not even sure if it's possible to "naturalize" a child. AFAIK in the US the process only applies to adults. A foreign child adopted by an American automatically becomes naturalized upon entering the country and completing the adoption process. I believe that children born to alien parents who naturalize before the children reach majority also become citizens or have the right to choose at age 21.

Did Obama's mother renounce her citizenship?

[Docfeelgood]

I thought his birth name was Barry?

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by TCO
military officers make an oath to the Constitution, not to the President. If USSC said he was ineligbile, he would have his bags packed and be escorted out the door. Also, public opinion (including Democrat congresscritters) would be against him. He would have no support.

Yet your positing what amounts to an unconstitutional military coup...

The SCOTUS has no power to enforce anything it decides, of course.

There's no guarantee public opinion would turn against him, either, depending on how it was handled. If he plead ignorance, saying he honestly had no idea this was the case and he'd been led to believe he was born in the U.S. yada yada yada, then there might be enough support to sustain him. He's got ~67% approval ratings right now.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Docfeelgood
I thought his birth name was Barry?

No.

That was the lie propagated by right wing websites.

[Q Classic]

His birthname was Barack. He went by Barry for much of his childhood.

[MrFun]

Hey all McCain voters . . .


you lost the election. So how much time should we give you for you to get over it?

[Q Classic]

About the same time liberals too to get over Bush's theft.

Oh, and Clinton's blowjob.

And Kennedy's Missile Crisis.

And FDR's New Deal.

In other words, they'll never get over it.