The Canadian Federal Election will definitely be October 14th

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Asher
Why is it so easy to beat down filosofy majors, this is just unfair. UNFAIR.

Perhaps because people who sense their own inadequacies with logic become philosophy majors to try and compensate?

[Wezil]

I've never liked the Senate in its current form. Reform it or abolish it. The doing of course is the problem. Harper's proposed changes can always be abandoned by future governments unless he can change the Constitution. There is 0% likelihood of anyone going near that. The best Harper can hope is that whatever changes he makes (holding senate elections or whatever) is popular enough with the public that any future PMs wouldn't dare change back.


Another potential avatar pic -

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Lul Thyme


Actually, I didn't want to be precise about it at all. I didn't even look up the numbers.
A difference of 20-24 makes the scenario you describe a lot more unlikely than with a difference of 10.

I do believe that the opposition may find it expedient sometimes to be absent rather than be in a position of supporting a conservative initiative . IT is slightly harder with a larger gap but I think the opposition will try to avoid forcing an election soon yet they don't want to be Dion's shoes where people can ask if the Conservatives policies are so terrible why did you permit them.

Should make for some more interesting times in the Parliament

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Wezil
A pair of Quebeckers.

Oncle Boris and Richelieu. 6 months each.

We could get a full fledged Ferret Brigade started.

Toronto Maple Leafs crests.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by CrONoS


It's easy promising something when you are sure to never take control; and if the liberal were so pro Kyoto; they should have done something pre-2006.

There is no way; Canada could sign Kyoto with the goal Kyoto had fixed. It was not possible in 2006, it is not possible now.

A market for a right to emit co2 is a much better idea. This is something that I have against the conservatives, the CO2 market was a good idea, and they should have implemented this as soon as they were able. (By assuring the industry of the limits of CO2)

Carbon trading is a stupid idea. It sucks the funds needed to develop technology to reduce emissions out of industries and jurisdictions that have the need for it.

I can see how you would be in favour of it though. Free cash is never a bad thing.

[CrONoS]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Carbon trading is a stupid idea. It sucks the funds needed to develop technology to reduce emissions out of industries and jurisdictions that have the need for it.

I can see how you would be in favour of it though. Free cash is never a bad thing.

I would be glad to see study or report about that. That's not what I've learn or see. ( I took some course on economics of environment in mu undergraduated studies, I have to admit it was mostly theory.)

The negative externality must be payed in a way, so better a carbon trading system than a tax).

Edit: I see how it could suck the fund; but anyway; with or without trading scheme, the environmentally ineffective industries would have to close anyway. Since now the federal government have put limits on CO2.

[Ben Kenobi]

Hell, even the NDP seat in Edmonton was won because all of the artists became extremely politically active to vote out the conservatives.

Rahim Jaffer losing isn't a bad thing. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

I quite liked the results here in BC, but sadly, the Liberals escaped total demolition.

I unfortunately had a power outage last night, due to some idiot driver taking a corner out and knocking down a power pole, so I'm just getting caught up now.

I'm most amazed that Dosanjh nearly got knocked off!

[Richelieu]

Originally posted by Wezil
I've never liked the Senate in its current form. Reform it or abolish it. The doing of course is the problem. Harper's proposed changes can always be abandoned by future governments unless he can change the Constitution. There is 0% likelihood of anyone going near that. The best Harper can hope is that whatever changes he makes (holding senate elections or whatever) is popular enough with the public that any future PMs wouldn't dare change back.


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@ pic.

I'd probably have given you a Parizeau avatar if i'd won, so you decide: is yours bad enough?...

[Richelieu]

Originally posted by Wezil

Very nice.

I will take that under consideration. I suppose in all fairness the 6 month clock is already started so I should decide soon.

edit - Is Richelieu a separatist?

Nah. Durham isn't recognizable enough. I know exactly what i don't want to have as an avatar... and i'll tell you what it is right after you've assigned me one.

NB: Once you make up your mind it's a done deal, Dude. No going back.

[notyoueither]

Wendle Clark.

[CrONoS]

Go nuts: Justin Trudeau would be a great avatar!!!

[CrONoS]

Awwwwsome

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by CrONoS

I believe in greater decentralization, and more power for the province, if it could be did, when we're inside the Canada, it could be good. But I don't think it's going to be done.

So, I would vote for teh separation of Quebec.

Also from an identity point of view; I'm not a canadians, whatever what people say, I don't feel as a canadian.

Would you call yourself a soft-seperatist?

While you are in favour of more decentralisastion, would you be in favour of lower levels of transfers of wealth from haves to have-nots?

What is it Quebec would gain from independence that the Province does not have now?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by CrONoS

I would be glad to see study or report about that. That's not what I've learn or see. ( I took some course on economics of environment in mu undergraduated studies, I have to admit it was mostly theory.)

Try explaining in your own words why Al Gore should profit from an artificially constructed trading system that privatises what amounts to a fine.

The negative externality must be payed in a way, so better a carbon trading system than a tax).

Assuming that paying for the negative externality is a public good, why should funds for a public good be diverted to private pockets rather than public coffers?

Would a hydro executive have any reason to invest ill-gotten gains from a cap and trade system into fixing the 'problem' that led to the wealth transfer to begin with?

Edit: I see how it could suck the fund; but anyway; with or without trading scheme, the environmentally ineffective industries would have to close anyway. Since now the federal government have put limits on CO2.

Well, at least they will have more funds to develop technology to bring themselves into compliance with regulations, and a hard target to meet.

None of this horse hockey about sending a cheque to Al Gore for the privildge of continuing to pollute.

I can see why post industrial economies would see some merit in selling the downturn in their own industries. I fully understand the EU being major boosters of a treaty that conveniently sets the targets as of the date most of Europe began massive shut downs of industry. I also understand Quebec being gung ho for the plan to sell the side effects of your own driving away of industry. It's all perfectly understandable, just like I understand the inclinations of lawyers and used car salesmen to earn an easy buck for nothing.

You might understand there are few buyers for what you're selling.

[Victor Galis]

Originally posted by notyoueither
The negative externality must be payed in a way, so better a carbon trading system than a tax).

Why? The cost imposed to society by the externality is constant, market prices fluctuate. Taxes provide certainty markets provide uncertainty. Poorly implemented carbon markets are business subsidies or choke off business. The tax is much easier to set at a reasonable level and will stay there rather than swing wildly.

What is it Quebec would gain from independence that the Province does not have now?

The ability to chase off the last remaining English-speakers.