Why would you discuss politics here?

[Imran Siddiqui]

This is Kid. If he ever finished "proving the degree of [his] mental retardation", he wouldn't be physically capable to post here.

[Asher]

Guys, it's not okay to make fun of retards.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I guess you are right.

But Kid, just remember, no one won any awards for going 'full ******'. You have to ease off a bit .

[Kidlicious]

Hey, anyone is welcome to experiment with the test. Until then they have nothing to say.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Patroklos
While it is true I am not a big fan of murder and stealing, please feel free to back up your statment.

What exactly, specifically, about my morals is Biblical?

Don't tell me you've worked on the Sabbath? If so, I proclaim thee infidel.

[Kidlicious]

Ok Patty I took it in again with what I percieve as your worldview. But this time I didn't think Christian.

Results:
Economic Left/Right: 9.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.46

What questions did I get wrong?

If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations. Strongly Disagree
I'd always support my country, whether it was right or wrong.
Strongly Agree
No one chooses his or her country of birth, so it's foolish to be proud of it. Strongly Disagree
Our race has many superior qualities, compared with other races. Strongly Disagree
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Strongly Agree
Military action that defies international law is sometimes justified.
Strongly Agree
There is now a worrying fusion of information and entertainment. Strongly Disagree
People are ultimately divided more by class than by nationality. Strongly Disagree
Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment.
Strongly Agree
Because corporations cannot be trusted to voluntarily protect the environment, they require regulation. Strongly Disagree
"from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is a fundamentally good idea. Strongly Disagree
It's a sad reflection on our society that something as basic as drinking water is now a bottled, branded consumer product. Strongly Disagree
Land shouldn't be a commodity to be bought and sold. Strongly Disagree
It is regrettable that many personal fortunes are made by people who simply manipulate money and contribute nothing to their society. Strongly Disagree
Protectionism is sometimes necessary in trade. Strongly Disagree
The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders.
Strongly Agree
The rich are too highly taxed.
Strongly Agree
Those with the ability to pay should have the right to higher standards of medical care . Strongly Disagree
Governments should penalise businesses that mislead the public. Strongly Disagree
A genuine free market requires restrictions on the ability of predator multinationals to create monopolies.
Strongly Agree
The freer the market, the freer the people.
Strongly Agree
Abortion, when the woman's life is not threatened, should always be illegal.
Strongly Agree
All authority should be questioned.
Strongly Agree
An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
Strongly Agree
Taxpayers should not be expected to prop up any theatres or museums that cannot survive on a commercial basis.
Strongly Agree
Schools should not make classroom attendance compulsory.
Strongly Agree
All people have their rights, but it is better for all of us that different sorts of people should keep to their own kind. Strongly Disagree
Good parents sometimes have to spank their children.
Strongly Agree
It's natural for children to keep some secrets from their parents. Strongly Disagree
Possessing marijuana for personal use should not be a criminal offence.
Strongly Agree
The prime function of schooling should be to equip the future generation to find jobs.
Strongly Agree
People with serious inheritable disabilities should not be allowed to reproduce. Strongly Disagree
The most important thing for children to learn is to accept discipline.
Strongly Agree
There are no savage and civilised peoples; there are only different cultures.
Strongly Agree
Those who are able to work, and refuse the opportunity, should not expect society's support.
Strongly Agree
When you are troubled, it's better not to think about it, but to keep busy with more cheerful things.
Strongly Agree
First-generation immigrants can never be fully integrated within their new country. Strongly Disagree
What's good for the most successful corporations is always, ultimately, good for all of us.
Strongly Agree
No broadcasting institution, however independent its content, should receive public funding.
Strongly Agree
Our civil liberties are being excessively curbed in the name of counter-terrorism. Strongly Disagree
A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system. Strongly Disagree
Although the electronic age makes official surveillance easier, only wrongdoers need to be worried.
Strongly Agree
The death penalty should be an option for the most serious crimes.
Strongly Agree
In a civilised society, one must always have people above to be obeyed and people below to be commanded.
Strongly Agree
Abstract art that doesn't represent anything shouldn't be considered art at all.
Strongly Agree
In criminal justice, punishment should be more important than rehabilitation.
Strongly Agree
It is a waste of time to try to rehabilitate some criminals.
Strongly Agree
The businessperson and the manufacturer are more important than the writer and the artist.
Strongly Agree
Mothers may have careers, but their first duty is to be homemakers. Strongly Disagree
Multinational companies are unethically exploiting the plant genetic resources of developing countries. Strongly Disagree
Making peace with the establishment is an important aspect of maturity.
Strongly Agree
Astrology accurately explains many things. Strongly Disagree
You cannot be moral without being religious. Strongly Disagree
Charity is better than social security as a means of helping the genuinely disadvantaged.
Strongly Agree
Some people are naturally unlucky. Strongly Disagree
It is important that my child's school instills religious values. Strongly Disagree
Sex outside marriage is usually immoral. Strongly Disagree
A same sex couple in a stable, loving relationship, should not be excluded from the possibility of child adoption. Strongly Disagree
Pornography, depicting consenting adults, should be legal for the adult population. Strongly Disagree
What goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state.
Strongly Agree
No one can feel naturally homosexual.
Strongly Agree
These days openness about sex has gone too far. Strongly Disagree

[Imran Siddiqui]

You use "Strongly" a lot.

[Kidlicious]

It's my perception that he believes strongly about many things.

[Naked Gents Rut]

A libertarian who supports banning gay marriage is no libertarian.

Real libertarians are nuts. If we followed their advice, society would collapse.

[Patroklos]

It's my perception that he believes strongly about many things.

Thats because you are observing me from your extreme position.

Most of those questions are worded as to preclude someone from using strongly.

Case in point:

The prime function of schooling should be to equip the future generation to find jobs.
Strongly Agree

While I agree this is A prime function of education, there are several others like being a functioning member of society and developing intelligence to make informed decisions. This opinion would keep me from choosing either "strongly option. Interestingly, because of my opinion not only do I sort of disagree with the statement, but I also sort of agree, alowing me to pick either but still be correct.

But either way I would still be a middle of the road moderate vice your characature (sp?).

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Thats because you are observing me from your extreme position.

I compare you to other people who are not as extreme as I am. For example, I acknowledge that people like Imran are to the left of you. I don't view everyone who disagrees with me as an extemist.

Most of those questions are worded as to preclude someone from using strongly.

Case in point:



While I agree this is A prime function of education, there are several others like being a functioning member of society and developing intelligence to make informed decisions. This opinion would keep me from choosing either "strongly option. Interestingly, because of my opinion not only do I sort of disagree with the statement, but I also sort of agree, alowing me to pick either but still be correct.

But either way I would still be a middle of the road moderate vice your characature (sp?).

When I see a word like prime used I'm able to make a decision with certainty. That does not allow me to choose a moderate answer. It's a simple matter of choosing what is most important. I'm sure you are able to do that, no?

So how many did you answer agree/disagree? The more you answered like that the more moderate you will score I think.

[Boris Godunov]

Can we just settle this by acknowledging that it's ridiculously presumptuous and condescending for someone to take a quiz like this on behalf of another person whom they've never actually met, nor know particularly well? If anyone were to take this quiz assuming to know my answers, all they would deserve is a middle finger.

[Kidlicious]

I'm interested in how people answer the questions and score on the test. If Patty doesn't want to discuss this he doesn't have to. If that angers other people that doesn't concern me.

[Ben Kenobi]

PAGE ONE

1. ECONOMIC GLOBALISATION -- Agree.             Globalisation should serve humanity
2. PATRIOTISM             -- Strongly Disagree. I'd always support America, she has earned my trust, Canada has not. 
3. PATRIOTISM             -- Disagree.          It's not foolish at all to be proud of your roots. 
4. RACIAL EQUALITY        -- Strongly Disagree. So much I would agree with the precise opposite. 
5. PRAGMATISM             -- Disagree.          The Enemy of my enemy could still be my enemy.
6. JUST WAR               -- Strongly Disagree. Military Action should never defy international law. 
7. EDUTAINMENT            -- Disagree.          Good education should be entertaining. 

PAGE TWO

1. CLASS STRUGGLE         -- Strongly Disagree. I don't believe in the existance of classes. 
2. FISCAL POLICY          -- Agree.             Weakly, inflation is just a bit more important. 
3. CORPORATE REGULATION   -- Disagree.          Regulation inhibits environmental protection.
4. CLASS STRUGGLE         -- Strongly Disagree. I oppose forced wealth redistribution. 
5. BOTTLED WATER          -- Disagree.          "There's a sucker born every minute"
6. PRIVATE PROPERTY       -- Strongly Disagree. Men should have inalienable title to their own land. 
7. FISCAL POLICY          -- Strongly Disagree. I think it's commendable. 
8. PROTECTIONISM          -- Strongly Disagree. Tariff barriers impoverish both sides. 
9. FISCAL POLICY          -- Disagree.          I think corporations have a duty to society as well. 
10. TAXATION              -- Strongly Agree.    So are the poor for that matter. 
11. PRIVATE HEALTH CARE   -- Agree.             I think people should have the right to pay for their own care. 
12. BUSINESS REGULATIONS  -- Strongly Agree.    The free market needs perfect information. 
13. BUSINESS REGULATIONS  -- Agree.             Some regulations are necessary to maintain a free market. 
14. FREE TRADE            -- Strongly Agree.    Free Market = Free people. 

Page THREE

1.  ABORTION              -- Strongly Agree.    Unborn children are people too. 
2.  AUTHORITY             -- Agree.             All authority should be questioned, but you still need authority. 
3.  RETALIATION           -- Strongly Disagree. "Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"
4.  ARTS FUNDING          -- Strongly Agree.    The government shouldn't be in the business of arts. 
5.  SCHOOLING             -- Agree.             I think homeschooling needs to be protected by the law. 
6.  BIRDS OF A FEATHER    -- Strongly Disagree  Freedom of association is a fundamental right. 
7.  SPANKING              -- Agree              Weak. It's not necessary, but it isn't harmful. 
8.  SECRETS               -- Agree              Everyone wants to keep secrets. 
9.  MARIJUANA             -- Strong Disagree    It should be an offense to possess marijuana
10. EDUCATION             -- Strong Disagree    Education is an intrinsic good. 
11. DISABILITY            -- Strong Disagree    Sterilization for eugenics is flawed and pointless. 
12. DISCIPLINE            -- Agree              Weak. I think discipline is very important. 
13. CULTURAL RELATIVISM   -- Strong Disagree.   Some cultures, especially postmodernism are savage. 
14. WELFARE               -- Agree              Only if they are both able bodied and decline the work. 
15. TROUBLES              -- Strong Disagree.   Sweeping problems under the rug won't solve them. 
16. IMMIGRATION           -- Disagree           There are many who can and do integrate. 
17. CORPORATIONS          -- Disagree           No, not always or even most of the time. 
18. CBC                   -- Strong Agree.      CBC. 'Nuff said. 


PAGE 4

1. CIVIL LIBERTIES        -- Disagree.          America is freer then Canada. 
2. TOTALITARIANISM        -- Strong Disagree.   A strong opposition is necessary in a democracy. 
3. SURVEILLANCE           -- Strong Disagree.   Presumption of innocence. 
4. DEATH PENALTY          -- Disagree.          Better to let guilty go free then kill an innocent.
5. CLASS STRUCTURE        -- Strong Disagree.   I don't believe in classes. 
6. ABSTRACT ART           -- Strong Agree.      Starting with "Piss Christ"
7. JUSTICE                -- Disagree           Rehabilitation is more important then punishment. 
8. REHABILITATION         -- Strong Disagree.   Rehabilitation even if it fails is not a waste. 
9. ARTS                   -- Disagree           All are important, writers moreso. 
10.WOMEN                  -- Agree              Not all women will be moms, but being a mom is important. 
11.MULTINATIONALS         -- Disagree           Godzilla is more fearsome. 
12.ESTABLISHMENT          -- Agree              Weak. Authority is essential, but not all authorities have it. \

PAGE 5

1. ASTROLOGY              -- Strong Disagree    Astronomy, sure. Astrology is a scam. 
2. MORALITY               -- Disagree           The Law is written on our hearts. 
3. CHARITY                -- Strong Agree       Give to the one who asks. 
4. CURSES                 -- Strong Disagree    I don't believe in curses. 
5. SCHOOLS                -- Strong Agree       Yes, I wish I had that myself. 

PAGE 6

1. MARRIAGE               -- Strong Agree       I think sex is supposed to be saved for marriage
2. SAME SEX ADOPTION      -- Strong Disagree    Children have a right to a mom and a dad
3. PORNOGRAPHY            -- Agree              It should be legal. 
4. PRIVACY                -- Agree              Abortions don't happen in bedrooms.
5. HOMOSEXUALITY          -- Disagree           What is natural isn't always right. 
6. SEX EDUCATION          -- Strong Agree       Way too open.

final score:

+5, -2

[Naked Gents Rut]

Weird. I got similar scores with quite different answers.