Palin says 17-year-old daughter is pregnant!

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

What drives anyone to name a girl "Bristol"?

If it was inspired by rhyming slang, I wonder if she called her son "Hampton".

[Chemical Ollie]

Proof that even white thrash can reach the top, "The American Dream"

[Dry]

Originally posted by Arrian
This shouldn't have anything to do with the election.

If the Dems try to make an issue of it, it will backfire.

Of course, if this was the Dem VP candidate's daughter, it would be proof of the failure of librul values. As it's the Republicans, it's all good, since they "reacted well."

-Arrian

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/01/obama.palin/index.html

"Let me be as clear as possible," Obama said. "I think people's families are off-limits, and people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor or her potential performance as a vice president."

Obama said reporters should "back off these kinds of stories" and noted that he was born to an 18-year-old mother.

"How a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn't be the topic of our politics, and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that's off-limits."

[Asher]

Originally posted by notyoueither


I take it then that your parents should be disqualified from high office.

For a Republican high office running on traditional family values? Yes.

[Ramo]

Aren't you an Obama supporter?

Obama's not the one running a campaign based almost entirely on the length of his resume.

Certain forms of birth control [i/] do[/i] have adverse effects of women. Or at least can have a significant chance of hurting a woman's health. More of a "we're not taking a position, so talk to your doctor cause you might have a bad reaction" position, than an anti-contraception position. A dodge.

My point is that FFL is definitely not taking a pro-contraception position.

Romney, however, is a super rich mofo. With the whole 'how many houses' flub, that would not have gone over well. That, and lets be honest, he's a Mormon, would have been problematic with the Holy Rollers.

And he's basically disavowed his entire universal health care plan when he was running for President.

I think the house attack was probably weaker than everyone gave it credit for. Obama's best line of attack is and always has been "Bush's third term." Being associated with universal health care is a pretty decent way to refute that.

As for his disavowal of the plan, if flip flopping were fatal, let's be honest, McCain would have no hope. And there are ways to play up the salience of the program without embracing...

As for Mormonism, a lot of that is just due to lack of familiarity. He'd have problems, but so would, say, a woman (albeit somewhat worse).

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Dry

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/01/obama.palin/index.html

[Naked Gents Rut]

American politics is so ugly. The amount of bile and vitriol directed toward Palin and her family over the weekend has been unreal.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Arrian

Now only if the Kosities and other left wing blogospheres got that message and stopped hurting the Obama campaign (through guilt by association).

[Asher]

Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut
American politics is so ugly. The amount of bile and vitriol directed toward Palin and her family over the weekend has been unreal.

It's the nature of the beast when the Republicans decided to mix politics with family issues.

I'm all for the government staying out of private lives of citizens, but the republicans made it their mission to make sure the government intervenes. So when you make the private family life a segment of the public government, they shouldn't be surprised when their private failings become public.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Ramo
Obama's not the one running a campaign based almost entirely on the length of his resume.

Neither is Palin which is why I find the experience attacks from Obama supporters amusing as I don't think that is a conversation they want to have.

[DanS]

Originally posted by Asher
It's the nature of the beast when the Republicans decided to mix politics with family issues.

Mom, he hit me first!

[Naked Gents Rut]

I'm all for the government staying out of private lives of citizens, but the republicans made it their mission to make sure the government intervenes. So when you make the private family life a segment of the public government, they shouldn't be surprised when their private failings become public.

Not only is this moronic, but it also totally fails to excuse the multiple false rumors and smears spread about Palin soon after she was named the VP candidate.

[Asher]

Originally posted by DanS


Mom, he hit me first!

Yeah, that's exactly what it is.

Either the private lives are no business of the government, or they are. The Republicans believes the government can interfere with private lives, then they get upset when their private lives become part of that public sphere.

Do you think anyone would care about Palin's daughter being preggers if the party her mom ran for wasn't rah-rah-family values and rah-rah-abstinence? No, her mom's party affiliations have made sure that her daughter's failings are publicly relevant, even if it's not PC to do so.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut


Not only is this moronic, but it also totally fails to excuse the multiple false rumors and smears spread about Palin soon after she was named the VP candidate.

I'm not at all talking about false rumours or smears, so why would it surprise you that it doesn't excuse them? How dare you say my post was moronic when you reply with this ****.

[DanS]

Originally posted by Asher
Do you think anyone would care about Palin's daughter being preggers if the party her mom ran for wasn't rah-rah-family values and rah-rah-abstinence?

Yes. Obviously.