My Stupid State, part eleventy-seven

[Imran Siddiqui]

No one should take communion unless they are Catholic

Do you even bother to read... ever?

The guy WAS a Catholic. He took the wafer to show his friend.

For his lack of respect of Catholics, and the religious rights of other people.

Disrupting a service once should not be grounds for expulsion. Especially when the intent was not malicious.

If he did it twice, then kick him out. But for one time? Prevent him from ever going to the chapel

As for the student who was there who did not take the wafer, I don't understand why the university would expel him, unless it wasn't clear who was involved. You can't be held responsible for something you didn't do.

But he was... that's what this thread is about.

[DanS]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Also, as che pointed out, the guy sitting there, doing nothing is who is being expelled.

The article quoted in the OP hurts my eyes.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Unless they can show collaboration, I don't see why.

This makes me even more intrigued what was actually going on there. Why just the one of them, and not both. If they didn't have a clue about the wafer, wouldn't they both have gotten up to receive?

If they knew and wanted to steal a wafer, then it makes sense that one would go up and the other would stay behind.

Like I said, do you ever read? The guy who got the wafer was a Catholic. He wanted to bring back the wafer to show his friend, who was curious about it. I bet that right afterwards he would have eaten the wafer.

[Ben Kenobi]

They gave him the wafer!

I don't know if you are familiar with the customs, but you are supposed to put either one or both arms across your chest to indicate you aren't a Catholic. Then you recieve a blessing.

You are not supposed to recieve communion unless you are a confirmed Catholic. He only got a wafer because he didn't cross himself to confirm that he was not in fact a Catholic.

Where does the article say Wayne Cook was a Catholic?

I don't see it.

If Wayne was a Catholic, then he knows better then to disrupt a mass like that.

[Imran Siddiqui]

As the second link states:

Cook, who reportedly was raised Roman Catholic, has said he did not realize he was required to swallow the wafer right away and merely wanted to show it to a friend.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi

Yes, it's a big issue. No one should take communion unless they are Catholic

No offense Ben, but this calls for a WTF ???

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


I don't know if you are familiar with the customs, but you are supposed to put either one or both arms across your chest to indicate you aren't a Catholic. Then you recieve a blessing.

You are not supposed to recieve communion unless you are a confirmed Catholic. He only got a wafer because he didn't cross himself to confirm that he was not in fact a Catholic.

I took communion when I was a child (not catholic church). They just gave it to me. They didn't tell me what the requirements were or anything. Don't you think it's possible that someone might just be hungry?

[Ben Kenobi]

Cook is upset more than $40,000 in student fees have been allocated to support religious organizations on campus for the 2008-2009 school year, according to student government records. He denied he is holding the Eucharist hostage to protest that support.

Cook said he'd consider returning the Eucharist if he gets an apology

So the truth outs.

This is just another case of someone stealing a wafer to make a political comment.

If Cook is a Catholic then he is in mortal sin right now for holding the wafer hostage.

He should return it immediately, no questions asked no 'apologies', etc.

And he should be expelled, not only for taking the wafer in the first place but for refusing to take it back.

[DanS]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
As the second link states:

I don't know, man. Putting the wafer in your pocket doesn't seem like something a confirmed catholic would do.

[Imran Siddiqui]

So someone who stands in the quad, in front of a mosque, and rips up a Koran should be expelled?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by DanS
I don't know, man. Putting the wafer in your pocket doesn't seem like something a confirmed catholic would do.

I think an actual practicing confirmed Catholic, who knows the rules of the Church, is a very small minority among American Catholics.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
So someone who stands in the quad, in front of a mosque, and rips up a Koran should be expelled?

No, but it's a good idea to have a burial insurance.

[Ben Kenobi]

No offense Ben, but this calls for a WTF ???

None taken.

The Catholic church believes in the real presence, in that after the bread and the wine is consecrated by the priest during the mass, that the bread and the wine becomes the body and blood of Christ himself.

This is why it is such an issue, that so long as that wafer is there and has been consecrated, it's truly Christ's flesh.

This is also why anyone who isn't a Catholic should not take communion in the Catholic church, because they do not believe in the Real Presence.

[chequita guevara]

He's already returned it because of threats of violence against him.

I used to have one of my old communion wafers. It's long since disintegrated. I was never told I couldn't take one.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


None taken.

The Catholic church believes in the real presence, in that after the bread and the wine is consecrated by the priest during the mass, that the bread and the wine becomes the body and blood of Christ himself.

You missed my point - that isn't something that the catholic church has a patent on - most other christian beliefs think the same.