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If Hitler had died in the summer of 1939 how would he be remembered?
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Well, he did reduce unemployment, built highways etc, but he obtained power when the crisis was already going away. Germany wouldn't have trouble with Austria. Austrians were feeling German, and frankly were German.
Still, concentration camps, supressing of national minorities and political opposition, Cristalnacht, Nurmberg articles - all this have happened prior to ww2. So he wouldn't have been remembered as teh enlightened one, but, probably, not as teh pure evil too.
Another problem is that Hitler was modernising Germany etc in the wake of war. I don't know what would happen to German economy, with big loans, if there was no war.
Klajpeda (Memel) may have been of Lithuanian majority by ethnicity, but, sadly, it's the same case as with Masuria when it comes to Poland: Memel Lithuanians were treaditionally protestant and had strong ties with german culture, while Lithuenians were catholic and didn't have much to do with Germany. In result, if there was a plebiscite, Germany probably would have won. Lithuania seized Memel by an unilateral military action.
Today, just like in Masuria, indigenous Lithuanians are nearly all gone."I realise I hold the key to freedom,
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Originally posted by Oerdin
He did have a funny way of saying "German tanks could beat any Allied or Soviet tank six to one but those sneaky allies would always attack SEVEN to one!"
Sounds like one of the Tiger nuts over there at the Paradox foraBlah
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Originally posted by Oerdin
That professor was also oddly proud of saying how much better German tanks were then anyone else's. It's true the Germans had good tanks but why keep bringing that up in a math class? He did have a funny way of saying "German tanks could beat any Allied or Soviet tank six to one but those sneaky allies would always attack SEVEN to one!"
Well, the PzKpfw IV wasn't a crappy tank. In fact, it was in production from start to finish, but until the F2/G, its main armament was underpowered and couldn't kill a heavy tank except at point blank range.
Most of Germany's tanks, however, were PzKpfw Is, IIs, IIIs, and Czech PzKpfw 35 and 38s. These were so underpowered that the Germans had to wait for antitank guns to be brought up to bear on any enemy armor they might encounter. Hell, in Russia in '41. There are regular reports of single KV-1's holding off entire columns of German armor.
Even the best tanks the Germans produced, the Panthers and Tigers, had serious issues with their traction and frequently broke down. The Panther may have been the best tank of the war, but get a stone in its road wheels and it stopped.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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Originally posted by BeBro
Sounds like one of the Tiger nuts over there at the Paradox foraChristianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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Originally posted by Space05us
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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Well, it was true against the Americans. Our main tank was the Sherman, and a single Tiger could hold off a hold company of Shermans, then retire when it ran out of ammo.
In any event, even Chuck Lindel would eventually fall prey to 100 midgets."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
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T-34s had to be able to kill Tigers, or how do you explain Kursk? Granted, I don't know much about that battle, seeing as I'm studied the worst Panzer division in German history, the 22nd. It has the ignominy of being destroyed by mice.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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I got a Stug III Ausf B. yesterday.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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My family was originally from Masuria, in Ortelsburg. I bet Heresson knows where that is.
It's a pity they just can't make an independent German state out of East Prussia. Maybe they can call it Prussia or something like that. Having the exclave is a relic of the cold war.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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T-34s had to be able to kill Tigers, or how do you explain Kursk?
I honestly have never read a single account of a T-34 taking out a Tiger, let alone reliably in general combat. If you can point one out I'd be interested.
I got a Stug III Ausf B. yesterday."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Well, it was true against the Americans. Our main tank was the Sherman, and a single Tiger could hold off a hold company of Shermans, then retire when it ran out of ammo.
The T-34 that the russians used later in the war had a bigger gun, an 85/86mm one, and could kill a tiger much easier than a sherman could.
Additionally, the russians had http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iosef_Stalin_tank
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