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  • #46
    I could care less if he's part Arab.

    The point is he's selling himself as a package.

    THE FIRST BLACK president. As pointed out there were other early presidents that technically could already make that claim.

    The package he is trying to sell is full of holes. He's just like every other politician no matter what he says. He is popular with the young and surprising enough the highly educated that should be able to see through all the smoke. Granted, even with all the smoke the highly educated probably still prefer him over the others.

    So I don't care that he's arab, I'm just curious if it's true and just another wisp of smoke in the OBAMA image.
    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
    RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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    • #47
      rah, just go ahead and vote McCain like you were going to anyway.

      Granted, even with all the smoke the highly educated probably still prefer him over the others.
      Yeah, because they see the smoke for what it is.

      -Arrian
      grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

      The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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      • #48
        By the way...



        There is the link to snopes' factcheck on this email. It is incomplete. The email they quoted doesn't appear to have the race percentages in it, either.

        -Arrian
        Last edited by Arrian; May 28, 2008, 10:53.
        grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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        • #49
          Anyone who even remotely treats the claims in such an email as facts, without first verifying them...

          If it interests you, 5 seconds on Google turns up:

          Obama's family tree:



          Who the Luo are:

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          • #50
            If the repugs had put up a far right winger I would not vote for them. I do sometimes vote Dem but have when the canditate dictate it. I was pleased that McCain got there since he's acceptable in my book.

            Thx for the snoops link. I always like seeing something closer to the truth, and I trust snoops for that.

            Too bad they don't mention the real percentages, since I'm now curious about that.
            It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
            RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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            • #51
              Post the percentages for the rest of us please. And no, we didn't seemed to take it as fact.
              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
              RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • #52
                :vomit:
                grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                • #53
                  rah, look at the family tree. It will become very apparent why "post the percentages" is an inane request.

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                  • #54
                    This is a fool's game. Hell, it's a fool's game if you tried to do it with ME, and my family history is clearer than his, I'd wager.

                    edit: Let's see, I'm 53.27% English, 22.49% Sicilian, ... no, wait, let's break down the English bit. 8.2% Angle, 22.5% Saxon, 5% Jute, 9.1% RomanoBrittish, 11% Norman... no, wait. Gotta break down Norman between Norse and French. Hmm. Anybody got a calculator?

                    If you really want to know about his self-identification (the "point" Patroklos keeps trying to make about Obama's claims about being black), I think he explained it already, in print. I don't personally give a ****.

                    -Arrian
                    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                    • #55
                      Obama is black like Tiger Woods is black. If he said "I'm arab", not only would he not be electable, but he'd get pissed on for "denying his black heritage".
                      I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                      I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by rah
                        I can see the boat coming down the river now.

                        Most of those items will be accepted truths by mid-October. Especially south of the Mason-Dixon line.

                        Democracy will once again survive. and the Democrats may be left wondering what happened.
                        Democracy of the retards. While I wouldn't care if McCain became pres, if he did for this reason it would be reason enough to start a 2nd civil war just to cull the herd.
                        I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                        I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Aeson
                          Anyone who even remotely treats the claims in such an email as facts, without first verifying them...

                          If it interests you, 5 seconds on Google turns up:

                          Obama's family tree:

                          Great stuff... I didn't know that he was related to Bush and Cheney. Him and Bush are 11th cousins
                          Keep on Civin'
                          RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                          • #58
                            Family trees are like that. Which is why worrying about such stuff is so inane. We're all related somehow.

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                            • #59
                              Heh, I just realized that Koyaanisqatsi, in post #12, provided the snopes link.

                              -Arrian
                              grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                              The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                              • #60
                                Why is it racist to reveal the fact that his dad is an ah-rab, and not racist that he is being billed as half-black and half-white, and uses a McCartney-Stevie Wonder track as his campaign song?
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