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  • But lets get back from racistm to sexism...
    Last edited by Heraclitus; May 27, 2008, 18:51.
    Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
    The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
    The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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    • Originally posted by Heraclitus
      But lets get back from racistm to sexism...
      After those videos, gladly...

      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
      I don't think you get to equality by demeaning the "oppressor" class. You just create resentment.
      Thanks, that is the point that needs to come through here.

      There is an inherent discrimination in the phrases such as "Violence Against Women", or "Hate Crimes". Violence is wrong, regardless of gender/race/religion/creed/...

      Biasing the system in favour of the currently oppressed group only leads to further injustice perpetrated by government and law. Decide on what rights a human being in your country is entitled to, and then make sure that those rights are enforced.

      No one has said that violence against men (by women) is a problem deserving equal funding with the women's support. They simply want the problem recognized and addressed appropriately.

      Originally posted by chegitz guevara
      Poor oppressed men, with the majority of the jobs, power, and wealth
      So if your wife beats you repeatedly, just get over it - as a member of the male gender you are defined as the oppressor.

      I don't get you, Che; I thought you would be on the right side of this.
      Long live the Dead Threads!!

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      • Originally posted by b etor
        i like your avatar


        They give +1s for OT now?
        John Brown did nothing wrong.

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        • Originally posted by Heraclitus


          Am I woulden't be sure some men haven't commited homicide or theft. Your point?
          If they beat women they don't think that violence against women is wrong.

          I deleted the other part of what I said.
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          • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
            So you don't think that the vast majority (almost 100%) of the forum population here thinks that violence against women is a horrible wrong? Seriously?
            I don't know if you meant to say that. This site is generally very sexist. It's very common for most sexist people on this site to deny that, but that doesn't change anything.

            Oppression against any group, regardless of their "dominance" is wrong. That is a liberal idea - everyone is morally equal. You cannot hold the moral high ground if your response to oppression is to turn around and use oppression against the dominant group.
            I don't disagree that it's a liberal idea. I'm saying that that doesn't necessarily make you a liberal, or at least a very honest one. If you are only concerned with yourself then you aren't much different from conservatives. In fact, you might as well be one as far as I'm concerned.
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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            • Originally posted by Kidicious
              This site is generally very sexist. It's very common for most sexist people on this site to deny that, but that doesn't change anything.
              I think it's fair to ask what your standard is for sexism. Perhaps your definition is looser.
              John Brown did nothing wrong.

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              • Originally posted by Felch




                They give +1s for OT now?
                Yeah, which explains why I've made like 3000 posts in 6 months
                You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                • Originally posted by Omni Rex Draconis
                  So if your wife beats you repeatedly, just get over it - as a member of the male gender you are defined as the oppressor.

                  I don't get you, Che; I thought you would be on the right side of this.
                  I am on the right side.
                  Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                  • Originally posted by Felch


                    I think it's fair to ask what your standard is for sexism. Perhaps your definition is looser.
                    The belief that one sex is inferior as in only conplaining about violence towards one of the sexes. Why don't you start a thread and support womens rights and find out for yourself.
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                    • Originally posted by Krill


                      Yeah, which explains why I've made like 3000 posts in 6 months
                      which also explains how i have any posts at all

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                      • Re: Re: Re: Re: Funny right?

                        Originally posted by Kidicious

                        No it doesn't. White supremacism is defined as white domination over other races. Black supremacism is defined as black liberation. Another bad term. You would have people believe that blacks are trying to take over the country or something like that. I think that's racist and harmfull.


                        Bull****. Plenty of people are concerned about it. Too bad they aren't concerned about the real evils of society.
                        Louis Theroux on Black nationalists

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                        • Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Funny right?

                          Originally posted by Traianvs
                          Louis Theroux on Black nationalists
                          I don't think those guys are taken seriously, even by themselves.
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                          • Originally posted by Kidicious
                            I don't know if you meant to say that. This site is generally very sexist. It's very common for most sexist people on this site to deny that, but that doesn't change anything.
                            I really don't agree with that catagorization of this site. Sure, we have people like aneeshm, but most on this site are very liberal when it comes to gender (especially when compared with western society at large). Do we have some jokes based on gender? Sure... but that happens when a bunch of folks of one gender (EITHER gender, btw) get together.

                            I don't disagree that it's a liberal idea. I'm saying that that doesn't necessarily make you a liberal, or at least a very honest one. If you are only concerned with yourself then you aren't much different from conservatives. In fact, you might as well be one as far as I'm concerned.
                            I'd think that being concerned with equality in all aspects would mean you aren't concerned with only yourself.
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • Originally posted by Kidicious
                              The belief that one sex is inferior as in only conplaining about violence towards one of the sexes. Why don't you start a thread and support womens rights and find out for yourself.
                              Thread link

                              Right now only 6 people have voted.

                              3 think men and women are exactly equal.

                              3 think men and women are different, but are not saying either is better.

                              0 votes for "Men are better than Women"

                              I'll give it a little time, to see if more votes come in. But it doesn't look like there's any strong misogynistic sentiment here.
                              John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                              • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                                I really don't agree with that catagorization of this site. Sure, we have people like aneeshm, but most on this site are very liberal when it comes to gender (especially when compared with western society at large). Do we have some jokes based on gender? Sure... but that happens when a bunch of folks of one gender (EITHER gender, btw) get together.
                                I don't think aneeshm should be the standard. Most sexism is very subtle. Aneeshm comes from a different culture.

                                I'd think that being concerned with equality in all aspects would mean you aren't concerned with only yourself.
                                It's a matter of how much concern you have. If you aren't equally concerned with everyone then you are a bigot. Why start a thread opposed to violence towards men when violence toward women is a much bigger problem. Hell, there are worthy men's rights issues, but the OP doesn't address any of those, now does it. This is what I call subtle sexism.
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