Funny right?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Kidicious
People HERE do not complain about violence against women, except for the usual few. Violence against men doesn't need to be ignored, but why is it that so many people on this website continually complain about oppression of white males?

Mostly because most people here are fairly liberal compared to the general population and are against violence against women (aside from trolls like Wiggy). In that context, they are upset about ads that show violence against themselves (most people here are white males) being something amusing.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Kidicious


People HERE do not complain about violence against women,

Just as we don't complain about the fundamental injustice of murder. Its a priori recognised as a bad and harmfull thing. No one is arguing that it is not a problem!

Your argument could be compared to people complaining that there is too little discussion about global warming on an enviromentalist site, and that discusing the dangers EM radiation or the insanity of biofuels or contaminated water will somehow "hurt" the cause of fighting global warming.

Originally posted by Kidicious
Violence against men doesn't need to be ignored, but why is it that so many people on this website continually complain about oppression of white males?

Here is a clue: Most of us are white males.

But joking aside, I've never seen a thread here about the problem of mysogeny or misandry.

[Alinestra Covelia]

Originally posted by Felch
When you start thinking in terms of statistics, instead of the dignity of individual humans, you lose moral perspective.

QFT.

[Kidlicious]

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Originally posted by Felch


Here goes.

Ignorant black Americans made up a goofy religion about a hundred years ago, and called themselves Nation of Islam, even though it was just a bunch of racist horse manure about how whites are a bunch of monsters made in the mad scientist Yacub's lab.

Only blacks are ignorant for making up a religion, not whites for making up religion?

The NoI (which has about as much to do with real Islam as Oscar Meyer) is not about liberation. It is about the superiority of blacks. It is about dehumanizing whites, and casting them as the enemies of the true, black, human race.

Specific enough for you?

You didn't read the meaning of what I said. Look are how I differentiated the meaning of the two terms. Supremacy means domination, not liberation. It doesn't matter that the race thinks itself superior, although I personally do not think it's healthy to view your race as unequal.

[Felch]

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Originally posted by Kidicious
You are speaking for him. People do that all the time.

If you insist on ignoring my DL, I'll just repeat what he said.

You fool, the article I linked explains all about the Yacub theology and its short as well. I wasn't arguing I was offering you information.

The gist of that information being that you're wrong. You're so wrong you wouldn't know Right if it turned out that you're mom's been on Right's manhood since back in the day, and Right is your actual daddy. That's how wrong you are.

[Heraclitus]

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Originally posted by Kidicious


You are speaking for him. People do that all the time.

Sorry, I assumed it was self-evident. BTW That is precisley what he did as a response to your post, so I would dare say that guessed right.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Mostly because most people here are fairly liberal compared to the general population and are against violence against women (aside from trolls like Wiggy). In that context, they are upset about ads that show violence against themselves (most people here are white males) being something amusing.

What a bunch of crap?! Continually complaining about the oppression of a dominant group is in no way liberal. That's an insane way to define a liberal. What these people are doing is making it look like minorities are not dominated at all because they are also oppressing the rulling group? You don't see how transparent people's actions are?

[Kidlicious]

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Originally posted by Heraclitus


Sorry, I assumed it was self-evident. BTW That is precisley what he did as a response to your post, so I would dare say that guessed right.

You said he wasn't arguing with me.

[Kidlicious]

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Originally posted by Felch


If you insist on ignoring my DL, I'll just repeat what he said.

You fool, the article I linked explains all about the Yacub theology and its short as well. I wasn't arguing I was offering you information.

The gist of that information being that you're wrong. You're so wrong you wouldn't know Right if it turned out that you're mom's been on Right's manhood since back in the day, and Right is your actual daddy. That's how wrong you are.

You weren't arguing with me, but you were showing me that I was wrong?! Jesus F Christ! This is the post of the ****ing day.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Kidicious
What a bunch of crap?! Continually complaining about the oppression of a dominant group is in no way liberal. That's an insane way to define a liberal. What these people are doing is making it look like minorities are not dominated at all because they are also oppressing the rulling group? You don't see how transparent people's actions are?

So you don't think that the vast majority (almost 100%) of the forum population here thinks that violence against women is a horrible wrong? Seriously?

Oppression against any group, regardless of their "dominance" is wrong. That is a liberal idea - everyone is morally equal. You cannot hold the moral high ground if your response to oppression is to turn around and use oppression against the dominant group.

[Felch]

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Originally posted by Kidicious
Only blacks are ignorant for making up a religion, not whites for making up religion?

Actually no, I didn't say that whites who make up religions are any better than blacks. Mormons are a prime example of ignorant white people making up a religion.

You didn't read the meaning of what I said. Look are how I differentiated the meaning of the two terms. Supremacy means domination, not liberation. It doesn't matter that the race thinks itself superior, although I personally do not think it's healthy to view your race as unequal.

So from now on words mean what you want them to mean?

How do you separate superior from supreme? Especially given the dualism of the NoI world view. If black is superior to white, than it follows that black is supreme over white. They're such closely related concepts that splitting these hairs is beyond the reach of our greatest scientific minds. Until you came along.

I'm not confusing domination with liberation. I'm saying that liberation is only the first step in the NoI's agenda towards domination.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
So if both genders were oppressed equally then jokes about violence against men wouldn't be funny? Why do people sometimes laugh about jokes regarding violence against women?

Some people hate women.

Ok, count how many groups are dedicated to combating violence against women.

On Apolyton? Zero.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
So if both genders were oppressed equally then jokes about violence against men wouldn't be funny? Why do people sometimes laugh about jokes regarding violence against women?

Some people hate women.

You really think that's why they laugh at those jokes?

Ok, count how many groups are dedicated to combating violence against women.

On Apolyton? Zero.

How many people on Apolyton, do you think, believe violence towards women is ok?

[Felch]

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Originally posted by Kidicious
This is the post of the ****ing day.

Finally you managed to get something Right.

[chequita guevara]

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Originally posted by Felch
How do you separate superior from supreme? Especially given the dualism of the NoI world view. If black is superior to white, than it follows that black is supreme over white. They're such closely related concepts that splitting these hairs is beyond the reach of our greatest scientific minds. Until you came along.

I'm not confusing domination with liberation. I'm saying that liberation is only the first step in the NoI's agenda towards domination.

Is the NoI oppressing whites? No.