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  • #46
    Wow!

    I ususally stay out of the discussions on this board mainly sticking to mindless banter because most of the time you guys (for the most part) seem to usually know what your talking about. But man are you so far off base here.

    First off smoking a joint does not effect you the same way drinking does. And that my dear has been proven. Smoking a joint as it was so laughingly put above basically does just what he said. You pretty much just want to veg out and watch tv or do some other type of sedintary activity. The last thing it makes you want to do is get in a flippin' car and drive around mainly because your to paranoid to do anything else.

    Said this many times before in many other threads. You won't see someone get behind the wheel of a car and kill a family of five after smoking 4 joints, but give someone 4 drinks of beer, jack and coke etc.....and yeah it's a receipe for disater as we have all seen time and time again. Alcohol makes you feel invincible like nothing can harm you and for the most part that's a correct statement. When working a car accident where a family of five has been killed 9 times out of 10 when the drunk person is extricated from the accident they usually will walk away with nothing but minor injuries possibly a broken bone but most of the time just scratches. Because of the effect the alcohol has on the body. You will not pass out or have a black out from smoking pot, unless your smoking Hydro or Kind Bud and even then not. Or at least that's been my experience. You just get tired and look for the nearest bed or couch.

    Pot is not harmless at all. There are very bad consequences to society and individuals that come from people using pot. Pot ****s your thinking all up, and I'm just not talking about when people are high. Have you ever tried to have a serious conversation with a habitual pot user? If you had you would know that pot is in no way harmless.

    And what about the way they live their lives. Eating all that junk food all the time. At concerts who do you think stands right by the giant speakers. That's just a couple of ways stoners take care of themselves. That's not to mention the fact that stoners will usually use other drugs as well.

    Again WOW!! Do you live under a rock or is this an April Fools joke. You can't be serious? Well let me dispell your mythological thinking. Well Hmmmm.......I'd say this is a serious conversation and I seem to be holding my own pretty well and I've smoked pot for the last 30 years or so. I'm a college educated person who recently went back to school earned my second degree and I eat fairly healthy. Oh I have the odd piece of chocolate now and again but who doesn't. On one of my jobs I held as a receptionist I had 15 incoming lines and took between 1000 and 1300 calls per day. And did it quite well, well enough to win the customer satisfaction award in 2000. Guess what......was smoking pot when I did that.

    Oh and to further repute your assumption regarding Pot smokers and basically that they can't hold jobs. My husband has smoked pot for as long as I've known him which is going on 17 years now. He's held the same job for the last 15 years with the Sweeping Company he's worked for. He started out blowing leaves around a parking lot when the business started with three trucks within two years he was moved into a second in command position and over the course of the last 13 years has built the business to having a fleet of 12 trucks whie working his way into upper management making $20.00 per hour. He ran a 22 man crew per night and the company is now a 2.5 million dollar business and the owner back in October moved him into the office as the owner's assistant and will be selling the company to him. And upon his move into the office wrote him a letter stating to Steve that his business and company would not be where it is today without the help and expertise of my husband who built the company to the multi million dollar business that it is. All while he's continued to smoke pot.

    Most if not all of my friends smoke pot. Dan has smoked for 30+ years and has worked for the University of Texas for the last 25, Jan has smoked 30+ years and runs and owns her own boutique, Tim has smoked for 20+ years and recently graduated with a 4.0 in computer science and now works for a major fortune 500 company in their IT department. It doesn't lead to other drugs unless you as a person make that choice. People don't sit down smoke a joint and say OOOOOooooOOOOo since I smoked that joint now I think I'm going to go try crack. It doesn't work like that, although society would like you to think that.

    Oh and one other thing.......if and when I go to hear live music and I do live in Austin and it is "the live music capitol of the world" if it's a band I like then yes, I will try to get to the front of the stage. If I'm going to pay $25 I at least want to see the show, but here's the newflash honey, I wear ear plugs. Yes that's right this pot smoking rebel who can't hold a job and shoves twinkies in her mouth 24/7 wears ear plugs.

    And as a person who has had to endure Cancer not once but twice in my life, I can honestly tout the medicinal purpose of Pot. It does wonder for the blinding nausea that's caused by chemo but it also helps restore some semblance to your appetite that is totally wrecked after chemo.

    For my daughter who is Bi-polar/manic depressive it's helped to keep her on an even keel since she won't take her medication. Actually the stuff they prescribed for her made her into a zombie. When she self medicates with Pot she's been able to thankfully move out of our house after three years, hold down a job for the last year and again thankfully pay all her bills without having to rely on us. I'm not saying it's the end all be all to her problems alot of this she had done on her own under her own steam and making up her mind to do it. However, I don't think she could have gotten as far if she didn't have the pot to keep the outburst under control.

    And from hemp, you already know this argument. Clothes, rope, paper, medicine etc.....
    I watched a documentary the other night on the "so called drug war" and the "drug Zar" at the time back in the 30's or 40's what ever the year was it became illegal said, and these are his exact words as he stated them on the documentary "how am I going to be able to convince the american people that a weed that grows freely is illegal".

    It's not what you think it is and it's illinformed people that don't really know the first thing about it that spout off repeated rethoric about it that continue to perpetuate the ignorace around Pot. Oh but I'm so sorry since I'm supposed to be nothing but an ignorant pot smoking simpleton maybe I shouldn't use such big words.
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    • #47
      Oh and I forgot one other thing.......
      Welcome to earth, my name is Tia and I'll be your tour guide for this trip.
      Succulent and Bejeweled Mother Goddess, who is always moisturised yet never greasy, always patient yet never suffers fools~Starchild
      Dragons? Yup- big flying lizards with an attitude. ~ Laz
      You are forgiven because you are FABULOUS ~ Imran

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


        Ask my friends who tried it. They've all quit.
        Don't you have to do more than just "try" something before you can quit it?
        ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
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        • #49
          Tiamat,

          Wow, I didn't realize that you were such an incredible pot head! No offense. I used to be one too. In fact, I used to function quite well on pot. I remember skiing with my friends and them not being able to function while I was skiing even better than normal.

          The thing is that the whole time I thought the pot wasn't hurting me I was becoming more addicted and my brain was getting ****ed up. It was actually ****ing up my way of thinking. Even worse, it was doing it slowly so it took me a long time to realize what was happening.

          And OMG, do you smoke 4 joints and don't think it affects your ability to drive? Taht's a lot of ****ing pot!

          Finally, I think you are making a huge mistake by encouraging your daughter to take marijuana for her condition. Drugs are the last ****ing thing someone who is bipolar should take. Pot is addicting for christs sake! Don't you know that your daughter is going to be more prone to addiction because she is bi-polar?
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          • #50
            Great post Tia.
            ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
            ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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            • #51
              Tia, I know I drink quite a lot and know a lot of people who drink alcohol and smoke tobacco. We are all succesful "normal" people. It doesn't mean tobacco or alcohol is not harmful and can not invoke harmful results.

              Far enough, that probably wasn't your point, however, I can say from experience that there are habitual cannabis users (I infer this as heavy users) who have suffered ill affects as described, just as many could cite the ill affects of alcohol or tobacco. And of course the heavier the use, the worse and more noticeable the effects.
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              • #52
                Tiamat

                Except the bit about Austin being the live music capital of the world. The mighty Bob Mould comes from there, though, so the place clearly has some significant merit.

                As for 'addictive' - easiest thing in the world to give up imo. Far easier to quit than pissing time up the wall on interwibble forums, for a start.

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                • #53
                  Thanks Cali. I just don't usually voice my opinions in OT to much, I just like you guys to think I'm just some dumb girl.

                  And no Kudi, I'm not that much of a pot head and I don't encourage my bi-polar daughter to smoke. She's 24 and makes her own decisions. It's just that I've had to deal with her on it and off of it. Off of it I come home to my front door (metal front door) being kicked off it's hinges in one kick and lying in the middle of my living room. When she smokes that doesn't happen. I'm simply going by what I experience and live.

                  I'm a nursing assistant and have worked trama and seen my share of drunk driving accidents. So I do have some basis to speak on this. And as I said before 9 times out of ten they will kill five people and walk away with a scratch. I want you to find me 5 news items that state that this person smoked 3 joints and got behind the wheel of a car and took out a family of 5. Just pot, no other contributing drugs. I would wager you would be hard pressed to find that.

                  Pot is addicting if you have a predisposition to addiction. I've walked away from smoking for years. Just said one day. Ok, I'm done with this now and didn't smoke for a number of years. And I'm not some big pothead like you make me out to be. Lots of people come home from work and crack open a beer. I just happen to come home from work and twist up. I'll smoke one joint a day except on the weekends maybe two. If we are going out then it just depends on the eveneing. I have days when I come home that I don't smoke at all. It all really depends on if I want to or not. That's what all of this really boils down to, if the person really wants to do it or not.

                  And I'm sorry you can spout stuff 'till your blue in the face but it won't get me to stop smoking. For as many things that you can point out that are wrong with it I can find just as many that are right. Come on if it's being perscribed to assist eye patients then the medical community thinks it must have some redeeming quality.

                  I smoke joints, even though I've smoked for years I can't handle blunts! It's to much for me I wind up coughing for days.
                  Welcome to earth, my name is Tia and I'll be your tour guide for this trip.
                  Succulent and Bejeweled Mother Goddess, who is always moisturised yet never greasy, always patient yet never suffers fools~Starchild
                  Dragons? Yup- big flying lizards with an attitude. ~ Laz
                  You are forgiven because you are FABULOUS ~ Imran

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Cort Haus
                    Tiamat

                    Except the bit about Austin being the live music capital of the world. The mighty Bob Mould comes from there, though, so the place clearly has some significant merit.

                    As for 'addictive' - easiest thing in the world to give up imo. Far easier to quit than pissing time up the wall on interwibble forums, for a start.

                    Thank you! It was much easier to quit smoking pot for me then it was to quit smoking ciggy's!
                    Welcome to earth, my name is Tia and I'll be your tour guide for this trip.
                    Succulent and Bejeweled Mother Goddess, who is always moisturised yet never greasy, always patient yet never suffers fools~Starchild
                    Dragons? Yup- big flying lizards with an attitude. ~ Laz
                    You are forgiven because you are FABULOUS ~ Imran

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                    • #55
                      Indeed.

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                      • #56
                        Ok, kudi I'll even prove your point. It is now 3:57 central standard time by my old computer clock. I will now retire to the living room and my good ole' tin and the next time I return and post in this thread I will be good and stoned. You and I can have a conversation and you see if I'm dumber then I was 20 minutes ago. Back in a few........all out.
                        Welcome to earth, my name is Tia and I'll be your tour guide for this trip.
                        Succulent and Bejeweled Mother Goddess, who is always moisturised yet never greasy, always patient yet never suffers fools~Starchild
                        Dragons? Yup- big flying lizards with an attitude. ~ Laz
                        You are forgiven because you are FABULOUS ~ Imran

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                        • #57


                          Found this interesting. I wonder what the illegal activity was....smoking cannabis?

                          A WARNING about the toxic effects of cannabis was issued last night after a 36-year-old man became the first to die as a direct result of smoking the drug.

                          Lee Maisey, 36, who smoked half a dozen “joints” a day, was found dead on the living room floor of his home in Summerhill, Pembrokeshire, after complaining of a headache.

                          Michael Howells, the Pembrokeshire Coroner, recorded the cause of death as cannabis poisoning, although the verdict recorded was death by misadventure because Mr Maisey had died while taking part in an illegal activity.

                          Philip Guy, a lecturer in addictions at the University of Hull, said that “cannabis has changed. Nowadays it is a lot stronger than it used to be. It is not the nice hippy drug it once was. It is a distinct possibility that someone could die from extreme toxicity.” Dr Guy said death was more likely if the drug had been eaten instead of smoked. “If you eat a large amount of it it can be deadly.”
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                          • #58
                            Don't you have to do more than just "try" something before you can quit it?
                            That was a bit tongue in cheek.

                            They were fairly heavy users for awhile, and ended up quitting.

                            Both of them said it was affecting them too much and don't smoke at all anymore.

                            Secondly, I've had a friend in the hospital who has schizophrenia. The joints really helped him. Totally screwed up his life, and now he has to take antipsychotics.

                            Marijuana can mess with some things that smoking and alcohol do not, as bad as those things are, you don't end up in the psycho ward after.

                            I don't see that happening to folks who drink and smoke.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Tiamat
                              And I'm sorry you can spout stuff 'till your blue in the face but it won't get me to stop smoking. For as many things that you can point out that are wrong with it I can find just as many that are right. Come on if it's being perscribed to assist eye patients then the medical community thinks it must have some redeeming quality.

                              I smoke joints, even though I've smoked for years I can't handle blunts! It's to much for me I wind up coughing for days.
                              I'm not trying to get you to quite. I'm just saying that pot is dangerous. Also, I say that people are better off without it. You can think better, and I think that you generally have better relationships with people when you aren't a pot head. Pot every once in a while isn't bad, but I do think that everyday after work is a habit and therefore not good for you.

                              As for me, I quite when my son started asking what that smell was. I had a choice to tell him that it's ok to smoke pot or to quite myself. His mom is addicted to meth btw, which has a lot to do with my decision.
                              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by DanS
                                With all of the socialized medicine in the first world, including the US, I think it more likely that tobacco will be outlawed than marijuana made legal.
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