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  • #31
    California became a U.S. territory in 1847 when Mexico surrendered it to John C. Frémont
    Texas was never a territory. Oklahoma was though.
    I don't think Hawaii is ever thought of as being an individual republic. They were, I guess, but they flew the Union Jack.
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    • #32
      Vermont became the 14th state to join the United States, following a 14-year period during and after the Revolutionary War as the independent Republic of Vermont.


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      • #33
        Vermont? All by itself like a grown-up? I can't see it.

        Do they even have cities in Vermont?
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        • #34
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Seeker
            Utah? Were the Mormons independent?
            Nope. Pres. Polk did a deal with them. They formed the Mormon Battalion to protect California from the Mexicans during the U.S. war with Mexico, and in exhcnage Polk let them settle in Utah.

            Trivia: The Mormon Battalion is the only unit of the U.S. military ever to have a religious designation.

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            • #36
              BK may soon move to Texas and out of Canada. That can only be a good thing.
              For Texas or for Canada?
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              • #37
                Texas

                They seem the least hypocritical and It has an interesting history.
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                The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
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                • #38
                  I honestly don't know the fourth. Hawaii was an independent absolute Monarchy before the US took it over, Texas was independent for like 13 years, California for only 2 years, but the fourth?
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Oerdin
                    I honestly don't know the fourth. Hawaii was an independent absolute Monarchy before the US took it over, Texas was independent for like 13 years, California for only 2 years, but the fourth?
                    You really do need to start reading threads. I gave the answer twice already.
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                    • #40
                      Texas was only really independant because the United States didn't really want it thinking Mexico would get angry if we annexed Texas (then times changed and we wanted to get Mexico into a war.)
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                      • #41
                        I thought other people poopooed the Vermont idea.
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                        • #42
                          Asher made a joke about it but no, Vermont has not been disproved as the correct answer.
                          "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                          "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Oerdin
                            I honestly don't know the fourth. Hawaii was an independent absolute Monarchy before the US took it over, Texas was independent for like 13 years, California for only 2 years, but the fourth?
                            More precisely: Hawaii was a monarchy before Yankees overthrew the Queen and set up their own republic. Later, the Hawaiian Republic was annexed by the U.S.

                            As for Vermont, Wikipedia describes how it was a disputed territory between New Hampshire and New York. After the Revolutionary War, it declared its independence but later, joined the United States as our fourteenth state

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                            • #44
                              Why am I arguing US history with Americans? Shouldn't you guys know this?
                              "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                              "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                              • #45
                                These days they spend all their time in lines passing through metal detectors.
                                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                                "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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