Battlestar Galactica: Season Four

[Verto]

Awesome!

[Solver]

Several great scenes. But I do actually feel quite disappointed about the final revelation....

Spoiler:

I was hoping the 5th Cylon would be a more important character, not someone that hasn't been around since early Season 3. But more importantly, I feel it diminishes the moment when Tigh killed Ellen, which is really one of the most powerful moments in the series.

I've read Ron Moore's comments and he says he wanted to show that the Tigh-Ellen relationship is special, transcending time and space. That kinda works, although Ellen was never a likable character.

Maybe it will grow on me, particularly after this issue is further developed in the remaining episodes.

[Krill]

I was joking, I don,t even watch BSG, never mind know who Gaeta is...

[Imran Siddiqui]

Solver, I believe the opposite. Instead of diminishing that scene, it elevates it even more.

Spoiler:

Tigh killed the final Cylon!! OMG! What does that mean for the future?

[Lord Avalon]

What comes after "final"?

Spoiler:

Starbuck would like to know.

BTW, I thought the FRAK EARTH graffito was a nice touch.

[Solver]

Well, it's quite obvious that we'll be seeing the final Cylon again, in some way...

[Imran Siddiqui]

How are we sure about that?

Distinct possibility, but they could just as well say that was it.

Spoiler:

As Ellen said in the dying scene, we will be "reborn", not resurrected. We still don't know what reborn means. Is it just that their genes get passed down? In which case, we likely won't see Ellen again, at least in the time frame of the final 10 episodes... unless they have a 'this is what happens in the next 100 years' thing

[Whoha]

They made sure to bring back all the killed off characters so at the very least we'll be seeing flashbacks, thus proving his statement

Spoiler:

Who felt compelled to first bomb earth flat, and then salt it so that nothing could ever regrow there? Only reason I can think of for the planet to still be a death world after all this time.

Also why'd they throw out the ages of the Temple of Jupiter and the Nav beacon as being much much older than both Kobol and Earth's Cylon ruins with the implication being that everything gets older as they are travelling to Earth?

[Solver]

Imran, that just would be totally unlike BSG to make a big revelation (the fifth Cylon's identity had been the biggest question since Season 3 ended...) and effectively not follow up on it. At any rate, the interview posted after the episode confirms that - we'll see our newly identified Cylon again.

Now, I've been thinking about what happens next. My idea is that, to fit in with the show's time cycle thing, the fleet could settle Kobol. They had been searching for Earth all along hoping there are people on it. Now that they know what Earth is like, they still need a home, and the admiral wants to find one. Kobol makes perfect sense, it's a habitable planet which also seems pretty well-suited to colonization. And this could start the next cycle, as both humans and Cylons would settle Kobol.

[Imran Siddiqui]

In some respects we will, but they haven't said how. I still don't think it diminishes the powerful scene on New Caprica. It makes it a more more interesting (and ironic), especially the background motivation for what was done.

[Solver]

Yeah, it sure makes the scene more ironic. But doesn't it seem less tragic? A large part of the scene was the subject of free will, how Tigh chose to do it himself instead of letting someone else do it. That's very powerful... now you could say that Cylon programming played a part in what happened. On the other hand, I think that the Season 3 opener was brilliant in showing us that Ellen really loved Tigh, seeing what she did to free him. That was the first likable thing to come from the character really.

I have to say that I definitely have learned to give the benefit of doubt to Moore and the show's writers. There had been a couple other plot moves that I disliked initially but later turned out to be good things.

[Imran Siddiqui]

But doesn't it seem less tragic?

No. His feelings towards it were exactly the same at the time it happened. Knowing she's the 5th changes nothing about that.

[Solver]

On the other hand, he had to do it because she collaborated. Which she apparently did to free Saul, but it could be because of her actual nature or even because Cavil, knowing more than the other Cylons, tricked her into the situation entirely.

[Patroklos]

God that episode sucked. I am really getting tired of this religion/vision/flashback ****. This show long ago jumpted th SciFi ship and is now pure fantacy. If it weren't for the absolutely unnecessary fleet zoom out shots you would never know this show had anything to do with space.

Oh yeah, and lets just leave earth and go God knows where, the planet only has every resource we could ever want in easily collectable piles

In fact, after two thousand years, shoud the worst of the radiation be gone? Oh, and the idea that we would nuke ourselves to extinction is retarded.

[Docfeelgood]

Talk about a mind f**k!!!!!!!!!!

This show is just getting to weird.