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Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Happily I live in the North now
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You left Virginia? When?
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I just assumed your were being an ass, sorry, but I have never seen anyone make bones over its display that was from here. In fact, my black Summerall Guard classmates wore the old insignia with the flag on their blazer jackets.
is it conceivable that blacks who chose to move north have a different POV than those who chose to stay? Not the Yankee propaganda, but a selection bias perhaps?
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I am not sure how many move North, isn't the general trend migration to the South?
I don't live in the North though, so I don't know what they think besides what they tell me. Wezil asked about blacks in the South.
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
What? You are aware that non-whites, poor whites and females gained the right to vote sometime ago, right?
Whoosh!
Majorities often favour policies that minorities would oppose.
I presume blacks were a minority in the flag vote you cite. Did a majority of them favour the flag (vote yes)?
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Originally posted by Patroklos
I am not sure how many move North, isn't the general trend migration to the South?
I don't live in the North though, so I don't know what they think besides what they tell me. Wezil asked about blacks in the South.
I was thinking of the longer term trend. Black folks in the 1920s who particularly disliked the South would have been more likely to move north, and may have passed on their overall orientation to their kids.
The migration back in recent years was small by comparison.
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I was thinking of the longer term trend. Black folks in the 1920s who particularly disliked the South would have been more likely to move north, and may have passed on their overall orientation to their kids.
The migration back in recent years was small by comparison.
I don't know.
I imagine the answer is what Wezil wants to here, that they don't identfy with the flag. But I would say that would be because that is what they have been told to believe for what, 50 years now?
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Originally posted by Patroklos
But I would say that would be because that is what they have been told to believe for what, 50 years now?
So why haven't the whites been brainwashed in the last 50 years?
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More on topic, I saw a few Confederate Battle Flags flying in Germany. I wasn't sure whether they were being flown by Germans or by American ex-pats.
It's absurd to take down a Confederate flag on grounds of Fascism or totalitarianism. They just don't apply to the Confederacy. IMO, the Confederacy resembled the last gasp of Feudalism more than anything else.
However, I think that the Poles have a case if they base it on flying a flag that represents racism. For actual Southerners who fly the flag, there's at least implied racial undertones. For people to fly the flag who have absolutely nothing to do with the South (Poles, Germans, etc), then I can't really think of any other reason why they would want to fly it.
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All this talk about the Confederate battle flag representing an abstract devotion to states' rights is cute, but it wasn't a coincidence that Southern states hoisted them above their capitols after Brown v. BoE (not that criminalizing political expression isn't dumb).
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