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Originally posted by germanos
The whole thing sounds like a scam.
The whole thing sounds like a scam.
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Seems pretty obvious to me. I applaud you for your good sense.
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I think the fact that a man like DanS has spent so much of his time trying to tell the Euros that they don't need Galileo (this is either his 2nd or 3rd thread on the subject) should be all the proof they need that it's a good idea.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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It is indeed a good idea, such a good idea, in fact, that Canada would be stupid not to contribute some money towards it. Help us free the world of the Yankee domination of global positioning!
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Re: Remind me again
Other existing systems are in fact military programs, downgraded for civilian use. And with an on/off button.Originally posted by pchang
why people want another system for gps when the current one works, is stable, and is free?
People (and this include private companies using GPS data for their business: e.g ships) fear military would switch off the system in case of tension on the international scene.
Galileo is the other way round: it is a civilian project.
Major contributors are the EU, China, Israel, Ukraine and South Korea.
But the main problem here, is that the military will easily be able to divert it for their own use.
So, you see the equation in US's minds:
positioning system + China + military = concerns.
The 'need' for another system, was in fact a 'need' for a civilian (scientific, commercial, ...) system that could not been switched off whenever the military wet their pants.The books that the world calls immoral are the books that show the world its own shame. Oscar Wilde.Comment
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Dry is correct.
Furthermore, I really fail to see why people like Kuci and DanS **** their pants over this.
I would be more worried about your own governement's spending behaviour and its priorities"Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."Comment
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It was a waste of time even bothering with a public-private partnership. Projects like this are quite beyond the abilities of business - see the Iridium network.
The cost of this is less than Microsoft has lost 'building the brand' of the X-box. It's hardly the stuff of nightmares.Comment
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You just contradicted yourself in the span of two sentences.Comment
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What's the contradiction? Do you think that churning out slabs of consumer electronics is basically the same as creating satellite networks?Comment
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What are satellites made of?
Basically, yes.In da butt.
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Don't misunderstand. This is more of an "I told you so" thread.Originally posted by KrazyHorse
I think the fact that a man like DanS has spent so much of his time trying to tell the Euros that they don't need Galileo (this is either his 2nd or 3rd thread on the subject) should be all the proof they need that it's a good idea.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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They tried to involve the private sector in funding. In the end, it didn't work out. What's the issue you have with this?DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.Comment
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A majority of the rationale used to justify the system was that industry would find it useful and would happily pay for it. But apparently, industry does not find it useful enough to pay for it.
It's a classic bait and switch, Colon.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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It's curious that for all the enthousiasm you've been showing for private involvement in the space industry, you are calling this a scam.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.Comment
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I've never liked statist "private involvement in the space industry," such as you appear to be advocating.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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He seems to be advocating the EU do exactly what the US has done. Namely have the government build a satellite network which their industry and military can rely upon.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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