Galileo at the trough of EU taxpayer money

[germanos]

The whole thing sounds like a scam.

Nothing compared to the farm subsedies though .

If the EU wants to be succesfull, it needs to stop wasting money on crap like this.

[Pekka]

BC, I don't think he truly challenges the idea of Galileo, it is important for Europe.

However, the way it's done... it raises lots of questions. Just like germanos points out, it's nothing but another Euro f' up, where officials are taking some money to feed their hungry kids, probably tons of bribes as well and whatnot.

THis is why you need to make tax payers pay for it. This way, it'll be paid over many times, and someone is getting the money. Nothing new really. Just look at EU. It's nothing but a huge circle jerk with officials who are racing for the biggest compensation to fax a paper that says fax me back if you get this, so we can confirm active communication lines are now open.

Welcome to Europe.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by germanos
Nothing compared to the farm subsedies though .

Nothing can compete with this insane stupidity.

If the EU wants to be succesfull, it needs to stop wasting money on crap like this.

Nope, quite contrary - when jihadists destroys the american gps system, we need it.

[Kuciwalker]

[Drake Tungsten]

Now you Americans see why we French have to run things in the EU. The rest of the continent is nothing but imbeciles...

[Pekka]

It's kind of funny that this cluster of companies want to share the risks.. I mean, does that mean they don't want the profits either?

THere have been some butts covered in oil, lobbying with lobsters and champagne and some fat Euros getting laid by hookers.

It's typical extortion. "If you don't PAY for this, we'll get NOTHING".

Nice.

THe way I see it, you wanted to put it together and fund it, now it's not working, you pay for that risk you took earlier. YOu go fix the problem. If tax payers starts to pay, this project will never end. But it'll double the cost by the month.

We should never ever have these big euro projects. We just get the bad from every world, not the best. Just no Frenchies at all, Italians nope, it's all incompetency and mafia with these guys, let's have Germans, Nordic countries, UK. They can work it out. When we get these central euros and southeners, it's always all ****ed up. But that's predictable, look at their countries. THey built it up like it is today. F'd up.

[Pekka]

But this is typical EU alright. Hey we have this big project, let's throw money at it. Who is in charge? No one? Great!

It's like.. if this happened in my field, everyone would have been fired already. Even in security, you're not the one leading. You need to find out the core processes of the company in order to see if you fit in it, and most of the times you don't. So what you do is, you find out the main business objectives, and you put it in those terms what you should need. It's a fight over resources, so they don't want to know why you need a new version of something that costs a lot. It's the same thing over and over again. You need to tie them to those business objectives, show the curves and say OK, this si where we are now, this is what we can do, how much money are you willing to spend? That's how you do it. Because a good security professional will get those resources by being professional. Not just some one-dimensional tw@t. But that's what the EU is for. Let's go one-dimensional for all the money we've got.

There clearly were business objectives. But in typical Euro way, they had a consortium where no one likely was taking charge. They likely had a meeting once a month about it, but were mostly interested in hookers and free gifts. Why wasn't anyone taking names and kicking ass? They likely knew the situation isn't advancing enough. Ohh well, but we can trust the EU will fix this.

****ing incompetent people makes me sick. No excuse for this one either. If they had trouble, they should have seen it, which the most liekly did, but they just never kicked any ass, they just knew EU will come in aid and rescue, because if they don't, it was a big waste of time and money, and most of all, a big EU project that failed. EU cant' take that. Let's throw money at it.

I just want to get out of this place, this incompetency is stinking and polluting and it might be infectious.

[DanS]

Originally posted by Pekka
BC, I don't think he truly challenges the idea of Galileo, it is important for Europe.

Don't put words in my mouth. Galileo is tits-on-bull useless. The bastard lovechild of Chirac and Schroeder.

[VetLegion]

I think that the EU GPS should be placed in Denmark.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by DanS


Don't put words in my mouth. Galileo is tits-on-bull useless.

Yep, it's just as useless as the american gps system

[Thorgal]

I think GPS is useless since there is GLONASS.

[DanS]

GLONASS would be even better if it had global coverage and was precise to less than 50 meters.

Next!

[Thorgal]

It has for northern and southern lattitudes right now and works nice (my uncle had a dual receiver in his fishing boat) and AFAIK it had global coverage before URSS went down, and will have again in the near future. In any case it is a good analogy: GLONASS < GPS < Galileo. So obviously Galileo is needed.

Sorry if you feel menaced by it, it is your problem and your psychiatrist´s problem.

[Dinner]

Yeah. this thread started as a troll and has now proceeded to the surreal. Whining about EU taxpayers paying for a defense system? Ignoring that the US does the exact same? Come on Danny boy...

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Oerdin


Probably a lot more then 10.

A year (which I did not specify). I thought the EU budget for CAP was about €40billion.