Russia to temporarily withdraw from Treaty on Conventional Forces in Europe

[Serb]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Actually, we think you should accept the decisions of the independent, sovereign countries on your borders.

Fine. But when we decide that we should stop subsidize the hostile regimes of Ukraine and Georgia and strat to sell them our gas for market prices, when we decide that Poland and Czechia should be a targets for our ICBMs and cruise missiles, in case if your military hardware will be installed there, then you SHOULD ACCEPT our desicions, becuse Russia is the SOVERIGN, INDEPENDENT COUNTRY.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

PPP doesn't make sense when comparing the global economic influence of a country.

Does its leading position as gas and oil manufacturer make more sense for global influence of a country?

[Serb]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I don't know about Russia itself but the economic collapse of the Soviet republics had its roots far beyond the collapse of the Soviet Empire itself. Unless you can explain why Poland (for example) suddenly became backward industrially and burdened with debt overnight as you suggest rather than over a period of years as claimed by many people.

You don't get it. I don't claim that the Soviet economy was fine and healthy. I claim that collapse of the USSR made situation from bad to worse.
Try to prove otherwise.

[notyoueither]

The problems of the Soviet economy led to the collapse of the USSR, and it's system of satellites.

You can't seperate the germ from the effect of the disease.

[DinoDoc]

It's for you to prove your curious little assertions, not I. It seems to me that the collapse of the onerous Empire only served to help expose the rot and decay that had taken over and allow things to improve in the Eastern block.

[Serb]

And Poland with its 20% unemployment rate is sure your shining example of improvement?

[notyoueither]

I'd say it's up to Poles to say whether their situation is improved or not.

[DinoDoc]

Compared to the economic situation in the Soviet Empire before collapse?

[Serb]

Originally posted by notyoueither

You can't seperate the germ from the effect of the disease.

Nope. You can't separate two different (but interconnected) diseases.

[Serb]

Originally posted by notyoueither
I'd say it's up to Poles to say whether their situation is improved or not.

Fair enough.
I want to hear an opinion of an unemployed Pole!

edited: Heresson doesn't count. He is a student who is in Syria now. At least I hope so

[Serb]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Compared to the economic situation in the Soviet Empire before collapse?

There was no unemplyment before collapse.

[Serb]

dp

[DinoDoc]

What was the economy like Serb? These problems you complain about didn't appear overnight.

[Lancer]

Russia should quit playing as the Mongols and join NATO too.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Serb


Nope. You can't separate two different (but interconnected) diseases.

If you mean the system of government of the USSR and it's organization of economy can be distinguished, that is an interesting argument. I doubt very much if they could be seperated short of a calamity though.

Take the PRC for example. For them to reform and leave the centrally planned economy behind it only took the disitegration of the Soviet Empire and then the Soviet Union itself to deliver the message not only that it didn't work, but to show the leadership where it ended up if they clung too long to ideas long worthy of a good burial.