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  • #61
    Originally posted by Jon Miller


    Well, even assuming that a gay lifestyle is sinful, if God hasn't impressed them of that sin, then it isn't a factor (look at Paul) I think.

    I know for a fact that when I am more spiritual, I recognise things as sinful which I didn't recognise when I was less spiritual. What the Holy Spirit convicts us of is in His hand.

    To use an example, I feel that working on the Sabbath (which is Saturday) is sinful. Many good Christians have not been convicted of this, and so God doesn't expect them to change. If God leads them towards recognition of the Sabbath, and they refuse it, then that would be another matter.

    peace,
    Jon Miller
    so you are still under the LAW??
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Kuciwalker
      Sure you can. You just have to be truly penitent and desire to change.


      Openly gay Christians don't fit the bill, nor do the liberal "Christians" who enable them.


      "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Jon Miller

        I think that some of this is coming from the Hillary camp.

        Politicians

        JM
        You very well could be right. I'm sorry to say.
        Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Rasputin


          so you are still under the LAW??
          Huh?

          Without a law, there would be no sin, no need for a savior, and no need for Grace.

          I am not under the Law, I am under the Grace of Jesus Christ.

          But the Law defines what sin is. Thou shall not Kill. Thou shall not Steal. Etc.

          "If you love me you will keep my commandments"

          Jon Miller
          Jon Miller-
          I AM.CANADIAN
          GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Oerdin




            "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
            so why didnt jesus throw the stone ????
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Jon Miller


              Huh?

              Without a law, there would be no sin, no need for a savior, and no need for Grace.

              I am not under the Law, I am under the Grace of Jesus Christ.

              But the Law defines what sin is. Thou shall not Kill. Thou shall not Steal. Etc.

              "If you love me you will keep my commandments"

              Jon Miller
              you are right, freedom from the law is not Freedom to sin.

              But it Free of the original consequneces..
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              • #67
                He didn't want to/choose to. He was offering Mercy, not Judgement.

                Also, unfortunately, Christians aren't Christ like (for the most part). We just are followers of Him, and claim to be under His Grace.

                Jon Miller
                (as Molly Bloom reminded me one time)
                Jon Miller-
                I AM.CANADIAN
                GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                • #68
                  The fourth commandment is the Sabbath.

                  The ceremonial law, which pointed to Christ (with the sacrifices, and the like) is no longer needed. I don't even think most religious Jews follow it.

                  Jon Miller
                  Jon Miller-
                  I AM.CANADIAN
                  GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Jon Miller
                    He didn't want to/choose to. He was offering Mercy, not Judgement.

                    Also, unfortunately, Christians aren't Christ like (for the most part). We just are followers of Him, and claim to be under His Grace.

                    Jon Miller
                    (as Molly Bloom reminded me one time)
                    Yes yes, Jesus himslef said he came not to throw out the law but to fulfill it.
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                    • #70
                      sane note... Do Muslims believe in the ten commandments? I don't recall seeing them when I read the Koran but that was several years ago.
                      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Oerdin
                        If you were a real Christian you'd be happy to let God decide and stay out of it.
                        I'm an atheist, doofus.

                        As it is I suspect you are just trolling.


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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Oerdin
                          sane note... Do Muslims believe in the ten commandments? I don't recall seeing them when I read the Koran but that was several years ago.

                          They had already split before then according to bible.

                          Muslims came from Abrahams illegitamate son, and the Israelits from his true son.
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                            I'm an atheist, doofus.
                            wow hat is hard to believe... i mean who yo ucall out to during SEX ...


                            Oh GOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                            • #74
                              OMFG! He has spent time with muslims as well as with Christians?!?! TERRORIST! He is half black too by the way, this obviously makes him a criminal! And his middle name is Hussein! HE WILL BECOME AN OPPRESSIVE DICTATOR OMG!!!!1one!!!111eleven
                              I changed my signature

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                              • #75
                                and worse yet he is AMERICAN !!!!
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