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  • I admitted I didn't think he could win and he won. I still think he was too green and naive about how to play hard ball politics and as a result he's wasted 3/4ths of his first term trying to compromise with people who had no interest in doing anything other than trying to crash the economy for political gain. Even stuff the Republicans campaigned on and said they supported have been filibustered, literally 98% of all legislation including Republican sponsored legislation has been filibustered, and it's all because the GOP leadership has decided they want Obama to be seen as a failure more than they want to do the job the people sent them to Washington to do; if achieving their personal power means deliberately trying to crash the economy then they are all for it.

    Does anyone else remember how the GOP motto in 2008 was "Country first"? Seriously, they're the worst patriots ever. Even if you hate Hillary she at least knew what the bastards in the GOP were like so she would have come out gunning for them on day one not trying to say "pretty please can we do something good for the country now?"
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    • You can be "not ready for prime time" yet still end up on in prime time...

      "Pop stars" do it all the time.
      "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
      "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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      • You can definitely end up on stages you're not ready for. Obama was not ready, he didn't and doesn't know how to deal with the opposition and no amount of saying pretty please or compromising with his compromises will get them to agree to anything. If you want to force them to act you have to beat them on the head in public until the general public gets the message, agrees that Republicans need to stop trying to make America's economy fail, and then when the public is behind you the GOP will finally move and do what is right.

        How have the Republicans been deliberately trying to make the economy fail for political reasons? Simple, remember the tea party down grade? That was when the tea party deliberately tried to make the US government default on the national debt because they believed it was ok to crash the national economy if they could blame it on Obama. Remember how they tried to end unemployment payments in the middle of the worst recession in living memory? They knew that eliminating income would result in less consumer demand and thus a worse economy; they tried to do that deliberately and we have literally dozens of GOP memos stating that specifically was their goal, to crash the economy. Back in the 2000-2003 recession EVERY Republican said we need to run a deficit because cutting government spending would reduce total demand and thus worsen the recession yet suddenly, when Obama became President, they claimed to be all about reducing spending. The reason is simple, they were deliberately trying to crash the economy and no amount of claiming "government spending doesn't improve the economy" will detract from the fact that when the government orders planes, ships, cars (for the government fleet), or has roads built SOMEONE has to actually build these things and so more people are employed and more people have jobs. Remember when Obama offered 10 to 1 cuts for tax increases and the GOP said "we'd rather just have the government default on the national debt"?

        The Republicans are all about deliberately trying to make the economy crash because they think the worse the economy is the better their chances in 2012. They don't put the good of the country first and instead they put their own personal power first and the country be damned just like the well being of the 310 million people in this country don't enter the picture for them. It's all about their personal power and NOTHING else matters. That's why despite the recession they've blocked every jobs bill, even moves they said they support and want to enact, and that's why they'll continue to prevent anything positive from getting done or ANY of the people's business from being accomplished. Obama is still stuck asking "pretty please" instead of doing what Clinton did, taking the fight to the people, and bashing the bastards in public so voters can see exactly what the **** stains are doing. After three years of the same **** I call that not being ready for prime time.
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        • If you kick a dog in the face enough even the dog learns yet three years of getting kicked in the face and obstructed and Obama STILL hasn't learned you can't work with people who are trying to destroy the country and he STILL won't fight back. Just look at the recent birth control issue, something the SCotUS has ruled 28 times (for identical rules in 28 states) as being legal yet once again Obama compromised with his compromise. WTF does it take for this guy to stick up for what's right and actually stand up to these bullies? The man is just unable to do it and that's why he's not ready for the bully pulpit.

          Almost 70% of women want him to fight for their right to use birth control if they want and 65% of men want the same (I guess they don't want to pay child support if they can avoid it) yet, once again, Obama gave in and ran away with his tail between his legs. This is a winning issue with virtually everyone on his side just like enacting REAL health insurance reform was an issue with almost 80% public support but before the fight even got started he cut back room deals with lobbyists and kicked the legs out from under people who wanted real reform. He either doesn't want anything meaningful to be accomplished or he has no idea how to accomplish anything meaningful but he sure as **** isn't ready for prime time.
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          • Wind him up and let him go....

            My work here is done.
            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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            • It seems even the spineless, wishy-washy Harry Ried is starting to talk tough. He's saying if the Senate continues to obstruct literally all of Obama's appointments he should just recess appoint them all. The real question is why have Reid and Obama waited three ****ing years before finally admitting the obvious and taking action?

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              Does any remember back in Bush's first term when all the Republicans were claiming that every President had a right to appoint people in his government as he saw fit? Funny how they literally have blocked every single ****ing Obama appointment for three years running so I guess their conviction was only one of convenience.
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              • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                He's saying if the Senate continues to obstruct literally all of Obama's appointments he should just recess appoint them all..
                It would be interesting to see a legitimate excuse for an impeachment given the blatant violation of the US Constitution this would represent.
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                • Not really. You won't be able to remove him so why bother?

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                  • Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                    It would be interesting to see a legitimate excuse for an impeachment given the blatant violation of the US Constitution this would represent.
                    Even Gingrich has publicly said the courts would uphold these recess appointments because the Congress really isn't in session even if they have one person who walks in strikes the gavel twice (once to open, once to close) and then walks out in less then 1 minute.
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                    • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                      Even Gingrich has publicly said the courts ...
                      Brilliant legal mind there.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                      • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                        I don't know. He claimed Obama was an "extreme leftist" something which the man clearly is not nor will ever be.
                        Obama has Kansas roots, I'm sure he heard plenty of Quakerism growing up

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                        • Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                          Brilliant legal mind there.
                          I'm just saying there are even Republican big wigs who admit their own side is full of crap on this issue.
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                          • Funny reading all the 'he can't win because..' stuff from back then. I was saying the same stuff.

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                            • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                              Funny reading all the 'he can't win because..' stuff from back then. I was saying the same stuff.
                              you're supposed to say "of course, i never doubted him for a second"
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                              • I still doubt he can win in 2008
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