Why if you are married do ya want to go to a nudie bar

[notyoueither]

What do you think that means?

[Jon Miller]

Doesn't neccesarily mean you want to have sex with them.

JM

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
I agree, I wouldn't like my girlfreind (if I were to have one) wanting to have sex with other guys. On the otherhand I don't think there is anything wrong with noting that someone looks good.

JM

JM if women look at male strippers, it doesnt mean we want to have sex with them.. Maybe men look at the female stripper that way, but i can speak for me and all my girlfriends, that we dont want to sleep with them. I personnaly have no need to go to see male strippers since its a waste of money. Id much rather go shoot a game of pool or play darts in a regular bar.

[MRT144]

a woman stripper is a fragile doll that you cant touch, a male stripper is something that you can play with and are encouraged to do so

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by MRT144
a woman stripper is a fragile doll that you cant touch

depends on the stripper/place

JM

[MRT144]

Originally posted by Jon Miller


depends on the stripper/place

JM

from everything Ive heard about strip clubs most of them dont let you grope, prod, noggle the stripper. male strippers are free adn encouraged to "t bag" the woman

[Jon Miller]

place

JM

[Mrs. Tuberski]

A male stripper is rather annoying!! I mena in most cases they bounce their stuff in ur face and sure they encourage the crowd, but if i wanted to see bouncing balls id go to a basket ball game

[Terra Nullius]

Originally posted by Flip McWho
I agree that staring isn't ok, but theres a big difference between staring and looking.

Beg to differ.

(imo) Noticing a nice bust is a built-in, unconscious reaction.
Looking involves a conscious action.
Staring is an extrapolation of that conscious act.

In the context of a strip club, it's probably fair to say that your average punter goes from 'looking' to 'staring' quite readily.

A cat would definitely look at the meat and you can't blame a cat for eating it either.

That's because a cat is generally assumed not to have the capacity for moral judgement.

It is generally assumed that men do.

That's why the whole Christian lust in your heart = adultery is such crap. Don't deny what you are, learn to control yourself, that's what makes us human, not animals with a shepherd.

Aren't you contradicting yourself there?

First you say that the Christian teaching about self-control is crap. Then you say that we should learn to control ourselves.

Anyway it's not a uniquely christian teaching. Buddhism makes very similar recommendations. I think it would also be consistent with Taoist practice. Even Lakota mythology carries similar messages.

[Terra Nullius]

Originally posted by Elok
On that note, I was never taught that feeling lust is a sin.

Matthew 5:28

Actively entertaining it is.

Partaking in unnecessary activities taints virtue. Therefore, avoid activities that are non-virtuous.

[Terra Nullius]

Originally posted by Pekka
Why do men watch porn movies, even if they have a wife, why do men do this and that, this is really basic human nature stuff. Men like to see naked women.

Enough wid da homoeroticism Peks

You're making me moist.

[Richelieu]

Elton was right.

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

It's nice to see people being idealistic.

Unfortunately being with a Canadian sucks all the youthful optimism and vigor out of a man...

Is that all it sucks out of a man?

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski

JM if women look at male strippers, it doesnt mean we want to have sex with them.. Maybe men look at the female stripper that way, but i can speak for me and all my girlfriends, that we dont want to sleep with them. I personnaly have no need to go to see male strippers since its a waste of money. Id much rather go shoot a game of pool or play darts in a regular bar.

I found that alcohol is a necessity. I tried staying sober in a strip joint once, and the girls were just boring. But kill some brain cells, reduce the ol' I.Q. down to the cretin-level, and the girls are really great!

[Cort Haus]

The idea that hetro men are supposed to only find one woman in the world attractive is either hopeless idealism or a symptom of falling in love.

The desire to look at women generally, and attractive/sexy women in particular is hard-wired into our biology, and pairing up with someone doesn't change that, not for long anyway. As was said above, looking is one thing, touching is another.

The extent to which an individual man avoids looking at women, if he avoids it at all, is a matter of personal policy and can be influenced by their religious, political and social background, but the reasons why some men, married or not, go to strip clubs is so blindingly obvious I'm suprised it needs asking.